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Borodog 10-05-2007 03:00 PM

Defending the American Dream Summit
 
Another too brief iPhone trip report.

Started off inauspiciously. Wife was bitten on the chin by a dog Thursday night. We spent 4 hours in the emergency room. Thanks for the managed healthcare, Ted Kennedy! The question is not whether we get socialized medicine (we've had that starting from 1965 onward), but whether we get even more sovielized medicine. I typoed "socialized" there but I'm keeping it.

I must admit that Giulliani talks a great game. He is the only candidate other than Ron Paul who uses terms like "free market" and "private property". Too bad he's a nationalistic jingoistic empire building authoritarian. Lots of politicians talk a good free market game until they get elected. He'll, you should see the stuff FDR campaigned on. You'd think he was Ron Paul.

Fred was terrible. We're at a conference for essentially free market repubs, and he's jibbering about "security" and "sacrificing for the greater good". Thank you not, Comrade Thompson. He was a total bomb.

John Stossel was amazing as always. Paul-Stossel '08!

Crazy supply-sider and former Reagan economic adviser Laffer was nutty. Sure, he correctly points out how good low taxes and low regulation are, but then says we are in an economic boom caused by those conditions right now! We're in a boom all right, and artificial one created by profligate counterfeiting on the part of the Fed. Supply-siders are such kooks.

Some pictures:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g/photo-32.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g/photo-33.jpg

Mempho 10-05-2007 03:21 PM

Re: Defending the American Dream Summit
 
Thanks for the report! Would you mind giving us a little more detail when you're not trying to post from your iPhone? I'd love to hear more.

Zygote 10-05-2007 05:42 PM

Re: Defending the American Dream Summit
 
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I must admit that Giulliani talks a great game. He is the only candidate other than Ron Paul who uses terms like "free market" and "private property". Too bad he's a nationalistic jingoistic empire building authoritarian. Lots of politicians talk a good free market game until they get elected. He'll, you should see the stuff FDR campaigned on. You'd think he was Ron Paul.


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Giuliani gets the talk from Steve Forbes' involvement with his campaign, id assume. Forbes' shortcomings are numerous however its probably the best thing about Rudy assuming the influence is ever-lasting.

j555 10-05-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Defending the American Dream Summit
 
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...05/398701.aspx

So did they really cut off Ron Paul's speech after 10 minutes like this report says?

Scary_Tiger 10-05-2007 07:58 PM

Re: Defending the American Dream Summit
 
They actually only scheduled Paul for ten minutes, Brownback for 15, Huckabee for 20, Giuliani for 35 etc.

Borodog 10-05-2007 08:49 PM

Re: Defending the American Dream Summit
 
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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...05/398701.aspx

So did they really cut off Ron Paul's speech after 10 minutes like this report says?

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Yes. To be fair, his alloted time slot was ten minutes. However, they did NOT cut off Giulliani, who also went over time. There were a tremendous amount of Ron Paul supporters at this summit. Dr. Paul got a standing ovation from about two thirds of the crowd after his speech.

The summit was an interesting mixed bag. It seemed to me that the majority of attendees were there to hear about how to move towards smaller government, lower taxation, less regulations, more free markets, etc. But there was a strong trend of nationalism and jingoism in some of the speakers (a minority, but they were definitely there).

As an example, there was a couple of guys there to talk about how Hollywood is not all liberals, that there were some "conservatives" still there making "conservative" films. He showed a bunch of clips from the films he'd made. What he actually meant though was, "neo-conservative", and the films he showed clips of were largely jingoistic, nationalistic, militaristic propaganda. In other words, he came to tell us that Hollywood is not entirely filled with pro-regulatory/welfare state propaganda, but there's also pro-warfare state propaganda too! Uh . . . great? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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