2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

Villain is 37/22/2 thru 100 hands. No reads/history. My image should be tight.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (CO): $754.80
BTN: $798.45
SB: $273.10
BB: $507.30
UTG: $400
MP: $519.65

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $14, BB folds

Flop: ($36) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24</font>, SB calls $24

Turn: ($84) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60

River: ($204) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $173.10 and is All-In</font>,

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

Raise turn? I raise turn and try and get it in. He might have pair + sd. Or just a10 k10.

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

I call this pretty quickly. Looks to me like a pair and a straight draw that realized you don't have AK and he's screwed or JJ/A10.

I mean it could be two pair or a set but this guy has loose stats and I usually don't believe really weird lines like this one. In fact it might not be two pair moreso than something like the flopped bottom end of the straight like 67.

In actuality you don't beat much but his line is really so bizarre that you beat a lot of single pair hands since no draw hit after the flop.

I'm also pushing turn, FWIW.

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

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I call this pretty quickly. Looks to me like a pair and a straight draw that realized you don't have AK and he's screwed or JJ/A10.

I mean it could be two pair or a set but this guy has loose stats and I usually don't believe really weird lines like this one. In fact it might not be two pair moreso than something like the flopped bottom end of the straight like 67.

In actuality you don't beat much but his line is really so bizarre that you beat a lot of single pair hands since no draw hit after the flop.

I'm also pushing turn, FWIW.

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Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

shove turn

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

looks like he really doesn't want you to be able to check behind on the turn and that he wants to get money in the pot, that said he could still be thinking this way with JJ/Tx. I guess you could call river/shove turn but I really get the feeling that you are beat here.

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

shove turn is goot here

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

bad flat call on turn. shoulda shoved. the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a great card for J9s, JTs, etc, so chances are he would have called there anyway, but at least you take the river bet away from him. since you flat called, the river changes nothing so you have to call here.

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

why is everyone so in love with shoving the turn? you really think villain has exactly AT/TJ/9J/78 more often than 67/89/8T/9T/JQ/88/99/TT? i really doubt it.
i like OP's line and im folding river.

Re: 2/4nl, QQ vs. Weird Line and Scary Board
 

On turn villian has put in almost halv his stack, why call turn and then fold river? Given that is not our desission to put it in on turn or fold turn?