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boardertj 10-04-2007 10:08 PM

Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
villian is 53/12/.5 about 60 hands. No other reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($49.75)
Hero ($55.90)
SB ($51.83)
BB ($105.11)
UTG ($57.58)
MP ($183.68)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4.

Turn: ($13.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $18</font>, Hero ?

Easy push against this villian? Or should I be scared of a turn check min-raise from someone with a low AF?

QuadLaser 10-04-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
I call down, unless I fill, then raise/bet the river. You are correct, imo turn check mini-raise could be a monster, You could 3-bet and fold to a 4-bet, but then you lose the chance to fill up on the river if he indeed does have the straight or a set.

boardertj 10-05-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
any other thoughts?

LOwrestling2001 10-05-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
3b and then folding to a 4b is horrible because you'll have great odds to call. given his stats, he has a pretty big calling range, which includes J2, Q8, 82, QJ, 22, 88, 9T, etc. It does seem somewhat unlikely that he drew to a gutshot, I think i go broke here if he made his straight. My vote is to get it in, but maybe someone should stove it?

whyzze 10-05-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
he could have so many other 2pair hands, the set and the straight. I would get it in here...mostly because of the any 2 pair stuff.

Logun 10-05-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
this looks like a set or JQ most of the time, each are equally likely

GS got there but that's very unlikely

If you call here you'll be facing a big bet on the river which will put you all in. So if you are going to call the river UI then you might as well push now

Give his AF I fold

whyzze 10-05-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Party 50nl top 2 facing turn check raise.
 
Board: 2h 8s Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.388% 54.59% 06.80% 23238 2895.00 { QdJh }
Hand 1: 38.612% 31.81% 06.80% 13542 2895.00 { 88, 22, QJs, Q8s, J8s, T9s, QJo, Q8o, J8o, T9o }


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