NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

Villian is: 13/13/3
Me: 25/18/2,5


Is this ok?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $222.15
UTG: $24.75
MP: $321
CO: $39
BTN: $226.30
SB: $38

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BTN calls $16

Flop: ($49) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $34</font>, Hero calls $34

Turn: ($117) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($117) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $55</font>, BTN calls $55

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

This looks like TT or JJ going for a cheap showdown. As played I think you should bet more on the river.

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

I don't like checking twice. Do you want to fold to a big turnbet?

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

like $88 on the river

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

whats stopping u from bettin the turn?

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

o nvrmnd i didnt see u checked the flop and turn; check raise the flop!

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

First off, QQ in this spot against a button raiser, even this nit, is a hand you're happy to stack off with. Why you're checking is beyond me.

Just lead the flop and get it in against a lower pocket or frisky AK. So many hands that call a re-raise want to get it in on this board, and you're ahead against the majority of them, Checking both streets here is pretty terrible with the wheel/flush draw out.

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

Where you planning a craise on the turn? If not please bet.

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

When he calld pre I put him on something like JJ+, AK, AKs, and thought that I had to fold to a raise from villian as it would surley be KK+ on that flop (guess it is this thinkin that lead me to a strange line). If I understand You right a more correct thinkin would be to bet flop or turn and call/shove a raise from him.

Re: NL200 - QQ in BB, 3bet-pre vs TAG
 

The thing is, even a 13/13 player will have a range of hands he open raises from the button/calls your 3-bet that you crush. Even if it's just 88+, AQs, AK, you're miles ahead. Given that, we want to get the money in.

Now, every one of the hands I listed has some interest in the flop. The pairs are overpairs, and the aces have straight draws and sometimes backdoor flush draws. So we don't have to get tricky to get it in good, here, it will happen naturally a lot of the time. Furthermore, checking gives aces the chance to get there on the turn (at least 7 outs), and any random holding with a heart the chance to pick up a dangerous draw. So the best way for you to get your money in here is not by check/calling, it's by betting. If you lead at this flop, the pairs will probably come along, and AQ/AK might (depending on the oponent) raise you all in, in which case you do a jig and call.

Checking the turn once the third heart comes down is all kinds of horrible IMO.