plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

BB is shortstacking and finished the session 69/0/0.2, SB runs 56/7/1.83, splashes around alot and goes to SD 31%. Am i better raising here to get it HU or flat calling??

Cryptologic
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $99
CO: $75.85
Button: $187.72
SB: $93.15
BB: $40.31

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10.5</font>, Hero??

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

Shove. You have strong hand.

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

uh-uh. BB has 0.2 af, so i call flop and prob call turn
he def should have a set here and i dont think we have any fold eqity.

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

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Shove. You have strong hand.

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Horrible advice. Think next time.

Shortstacker clearly has a set and your hand plays better 3 ways than heads up, so calling is preferred.

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

I'd shove. BB doesn't "clearly" have a set, your hand doesn't play all that well on the turn if the guy overcalls, and it is nice to clean up some outs if you can make the other guy fold.

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I'd shove. BB doesn't "clearly" have a set, your hand doesn't play all that well on the turn if the guy overcalls, and it is nice to clean up some outs if you can make the other guy fold.

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With an aggression factor that low it is clear you are behind his range, which includes him having a larger straight wrap. Either way calling is better over raising as it lets you get off the hand if the third player reraises.
You really do want a third caller, don't be forcing out players with 2 pair themselves.
Raising to "clean up out" also means you "clean up" dead money. Third player is loose and will overcall with garbage if you let him into the pot. The extra money in the pot more than makes up from any outs he may have.

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

It sure looks like BB is willing to commit himself to this hand. I have a hard time putting him on a set here. Wouldn't he be looking for an opportunity to c/r this flop? Anyhow, I think a call is optimal as maybe it string along the SB and sweetens our pot. If the turn pairs the board I think you can get away on the cheap. Overall, I don't see a shove being the optimal play here.

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

I am not familiar with PT stats for Omaha, does an aggression factor of .2 basically mean he is only bettin sets/top two? Can it ever include AA or draws? Thanks in advance.

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

0.2 post flop aggression means he takes the aggressive action (bet/raise) a tiny percent of the time, however since he is playing 70% of his hands his aggression is not as low as it seems since it scales inversely with VP$IP (I think.. I'm tired.)

Re: plo100 - playing a non nut wrap??
 

Call. Your hand plays better three way here, so taking a shot at getting SB into the pot is worth it. As it is, BB has a nothing stack, so shoving to get it heads up does little except make you coinflip for small potatoes.