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Alchemist 10-03-2007 06:45 PM

stud/8 - flush + low
 
7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (2.85 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___folds

5th Street - (3.43 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (6.43 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls

River - (12.43 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls
Hero: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls

Total pot: (24.43 BB - $48.85)

2461Badugi 10-03-2007 07:06 PM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
More bets on fourth, fifth, and sixth please. The river is just a sucky spot, but you should have avoided it by getting HU much earlier.

Alchemist 10-03-2007 07:26 PM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
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More bets on fourth, fifth, and sixth please. The river is just a sucky spot, but you should have avoided it by getting HU much earlier.

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Shouldn't the guys behind me be folding most hands on 4th anyways? To me I feel Seat 5 will call two bets on 5th Street if he's going to call one. You'd 3-bet 6th with one card to come?

2461Badugi 10-03-2007 10:06 PM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
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Shouldn't the guys behind me be folding most hands on 4th anyways?

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They should, but you want to encourage them anyway. 87 draws tend to make 87s, and get into ugly situations late in multiway pots.

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You'd 3-bet 6th with one card to come?

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I don't really get why you wouldn't get as many bets as possible in on sixth, with a made ace-flush against what seems to be a king-flush and a draw. You're much better off on sixth than you are on the river when S5 wakes up.

Alchemist 10-03-2007 10:50 PM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
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I don't really get why you wouldn't get as many bets as possible in on sixth, with a made ace-flush against what seems to be a king-flush and a draw. You're much better off on sixth than you are on the river when S5 wakes up.

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Can he really put me on anything other than a flush on 6th? And if so, he doesn't seem to care that I've got the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], so doesn't isn't his raise saying he's got the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and knows his flush is better?

Is the suggestion to raise 6th primarily to drive out Seat 5 or would you still raise it HU vs. Seat 2?

HOWMANY 10-03-2007 11:10 PM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
What happened on 3rd-6th?

2461Badugi 10-03-2007 11:54 PM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
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Is the suggestion to raise 6th primarily to drive out Seat 5 or would you still raise it HU vs. Seat 2?

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I'd happily jam this HU vs. S2. Putting him on the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] seems like mild MUBS to me.

Andy B 10-04-2007 02:50 AM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
The A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is in the hole. For all he knows, you're betting a low, a worse flush, or something else. If you knock out the probable low hand, that's wonderful. You greatly increase your scoop chances. I wouldn't expect him to fold a credible low draw very often, though. Failing to three-bet sixth is in crime-against-humanity territory.

Andy B 10-04-2007 02:52 AM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
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87 draws tend to make 87s....

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How come Six-draws don't tend to make Sixes? Huh?

2461Badugi 10-04-2007 04:03 AM

Re: stud/8 - flush + low
 
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How come Six-draws don't tend to make Sixes? Huh?

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Mine do. Maybe your boomswitch isn't working properly.


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