Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

Final table WCOOP ME. Ka$ino has played an aggressive big stack game the entire tournament. There was a lot of criticism of this hand in MTTC and NVG. Of course she doesn't know what she's doing since she is a girl. There is no way I can post this without results. However, I was wondering if people here had criticisms of the play on each street.

Poker Stars, $2,500 + $100 NL Hold'em Tournament, 125,000/250,000 Blinds, 3 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

LadyMaverick (BB): 7,909,864
ka$ino (BTN): 36,081,860
TheV0id (SB): 15,968,276

Pre-Flop: (450,000)
<font color="red">ka$ino raises to 630,000</font>, TheV0id folds, LadyMaverick calls 380,000

Flop: (1,460,000) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
LadyMaverick checks, <font color="red">ka$ino bets 880,000</font>, LadyMaverick calls 880,000

Turn: (3,220,000) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
LadyMaverick checks, ka$ino checks

River: (3,220,000) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">LadyMaverick bets 2,000,000</font>, <font color="red">ka$ino raises to 34,546,860 and is All-In</font>, LadyMaverick calls 4,374,864 and is All-In

Results: 15,969,728 Pot
LadyMaverick showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Threes) and LOST (-7,909,864 NET)
ka$ino showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and WON 15,969,728 (+8,059,864 NET)

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

Bet/calling this river is terrible, I saw it when it went down. Either check/call or bet/fold. And I would check/raise the flop.

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

Oh obviously fold preflop too. That's arguably the worst mistake she made in the hand.

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

I really don't mind preflop with pot odds in the BB. Preflop could also be a reraise/fold, although just folding to the raise is fine.

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

I said it in the official thread and I'll say it again:
slowplaying bottom 2 OOP = expert.

Is there more than like 5 cards in the deck that she actually likes to see peeled off on the river?

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

preflop is bad, she should just 3 bet
flop is OK
turn seems standard for tourney players given other stuff
riv depends on other stuff that ka$ has done, i didnt watch it so i dont know

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

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I really don't mind preflop with pot odds in the BB. Preflop could also be a reraise/fold, although just folding to the raise is fine.

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I don't either as long as she's competent post-flop, but clearly she isn't so she can't call here OOP.

This hand was played horrendously I saw it go down. If you don't check/raise the flop, you have to lead the turn, and if you don't, you have to check/call the river, or bet/fold, not bet/call.

To put it simply, she misplayed every street with the worst possible line on each one.

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

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I really don't mind preflop with pot odds in the BB.

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Not the way she was playing. She was constantly calling in the BB, and then C/F or C/R the flop, that's sloppy card dictated poker that has a ton of flaws.

The fact that she C/R KT on this flop 100% of the time, and even a retarded at the table has picked up on that already is just another reason her slowplay sucks so bad here.

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

I think she managed to make a few mistakes here. I won't get into PF, but check/calling flop and then checking turn is really bad here, considering ka$ino had a great tendency to raise when bet into in such spots.

Her bet/call river is also very debatable. It's a bad spot for ka$ino to bluff-raise her, IMO he would much rather do it in any other spot in the hand as played.

Re: Vanessa\'s bustout hand
 

calling pf is pretty bad

c/r flop please.

and bet/calling the river is kind of silly, there is just no chance he's shipping with a hand that doesn't beat bottom 2- like, literally i can't imagine someone trying to pull that hopeless of a bluff- but she could.