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F. McSimmons 10-02-2007 08:12 PM

$10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
Full Tilt Poker, $10 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,440
BB: 1,560

Pre-Flop: (45) Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 90</font>, BB calls 60

Flop: (180) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 2http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 120</font>, BB calls 120

Turn: (420) 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (420) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 300</font>, Hero...

With no real reads other than he's been passive the first few hands.

shyturtle27 10-02-2007 08:53 PM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
I'd call here, but I'd like more reads before I do. You really didn't get any reads during a whole blind level? How loose is he calling preflop raises OOP? Higher nines beat you, but there aren't many. He probably has a high probability of bluffing here if he's like 80% of FT players at this levels or close to it. He probably has nothing and a call doesn't cripple you, but still sucks.

hra146 10-02-2007 08:57 PM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
nah, they have a 5 here like always. Passive donks who bet the river big you either wanna raise cause you have the nuts yourself or you fold.

I see no value here.

shyturtle27 10-02-2007 09:45 PM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
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nah, they have a 5 here like always. Passive donks who bet the river big you either wanna raise cause you have the nuts yourself or you fold.

I see no value here.

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Is it really that often? I see trash so much with that big of a bet. I would rather call this than a half pot bet because I have seen much bigger hands with a trap bet like that.

xSCWx 10-02-2007 10:51 PM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
I call this and see people show up a wide array of garbage even in 100s and 200s. You need to be good here like 30% of the time for this call to be +EV, I think you are good 75% at least.

hra146 10-03-2007 08:05 AM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
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I call this and see people show up a wide array of garbage even in 100s and 200s. You need to be good here like 30% of the time for this call to be +EV, I think you are good 75% at least.

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In general Id say that: your opinion &gt; my opinion. However, you refer to the 100s and the 200s and in general to higher stakes really often. I agree, at the 100s and the 200s this can be an easy call.

But look, this dude is playing a 10$ sng describing his opponent as passive. Ive played so many 10s and 11s in the not so long ago past and I have made this kinda call so often.

Yeah, were getting odds and stuff but the only argument that could make this a call for me is that were getting a lot of info if we call.


Maybe Im too tight in these kinda spots, but calling riverbets by passive microstake donks can turn into a huge leak.

Maybe this is close, maybe its a call for you but Im not a fan.

Kalledrengen 10-03-2007 12:18 PM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
I think I would lean towards calling here. I would probably be even more willing to call if the river bet was pot sized. So many opponents calls raises, float the flop, check the turn and pot river if turn was checked behind.

I do think it is close though, I could also see myself folding here every once in a while.

gcaash 10-03-2007 12:23 PM

Re: $10 NLTRN - J9 on BTN
 
i call and a lot of the time i see KQ / AT and random stuff like that , belive it or not


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