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brpost 10-02-2007 06:55 PM

10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
Villain is 50/12.5/12, although only through 32 hands. He had been the table bully for the most part, however.

Hero has been playing 20/9/3, and is currently terrified to make his first 2p2 post.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $2.25
BB: $11.85
UTG: $9.85
<u>Hero (UTG+1): $16.55</u>
MP1: $10.65
MP2: $10.00
MP3: $7.65
<u>CO: $7.35</u>
BTN: $9.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.40, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.60</font>, MP2 calls $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($3.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $6.35</font>, Hero ???

<font color="blue">I think my c-bet was a little light, but I think I've snuck ahead here. If he has a pp higher than 10s he should have played the flop (and probably before the flop) differently, this play makes sense with A9 and any lower pp, or just high cards pushing me off. I think this is a call but any advice is appreciated (on the post format itself, too). Thanks everyone!

zyrrth 10-02-2007 06:58 PM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
i bet at least 1$ on the flop if i bet, which i probably don't because i'm oop and 3 handed. fold turn

SammyG-SD 10-02-2007 07:02 PM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
sample size is small, but I think he is semi-bluffing with a combo draw. If he has two pair, I don't think a donk plays it this way...Against an unknown or any othe player I would fold.
-I don't like cbeting out of position agains a villian like this, if I was going to make a move, I would c/c fire the turn, (only for a villain like this one though) but most of the time I am done with this hand, and will wait for a better opportunity.

Jay.Yang 10-02-2007 09:18 PM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
raising PF ATs in EP is something I would not do.

as played, yes, make the cbet bigger to $1. against unknown, i fold the raise on Turn.

toymach776 10-03-2007 12:47 AM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
Welcome and dont be scurred, we all suck too. I would fold AT in early position here. On the flop your cbet is definitely light. Youve hit a good flop to cbet so make it like 1.1 to 1.2 here. You are offering opponents with position on you better than 2-1 to call. I would check turn after getting two calls on flop and call a reasonably sized bet from aggresive villain. Given villains stats I might call this turn shove, but Im a little crazy and probably gamble too much so a fold might be in order.

ship_it_trebek 10-03-2007 01:01 AM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
Wow someone's first post that has a decent title, correct hand converter and everything. I'm impressed.

Fold preflop, raising ATs will get you in more awkward positions than you want. As played, the flop bet needs to be bigger. Against one opponent I'd fire turn, against 2 OOP I'm happy to check. As played, against this villain I can find a call here.

brpost 10-04-2007 12:07 AM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
Thanks guys! I agree that the cbet was light, that seems pretty obvious now. I was just curious what people would put the villain on after the shove, besides a set. I don't see much else for him besides a lower pp given his line. That said, I really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks again!

Renton 10-04-2007 12:10 AM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
c/f flop, as played definitely call getting better than 2.5:1

Renton 10-04-2007 12:11 AM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
also screw the nits that are saying to fold pre

CalledDownLight 10-04-2007 12:33 AM

Re: 10NL C-Bet, hit TPTK, craised (1st post!)
 
I'd pretty much never fold TPTK on a board like this getting ok odds at NL10. Obviously that statement has a lot of qualifiers, but you're going to run into a lot of 9x hands and draws more enough to justify the call.


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