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Wilpro 10-01-2007 07:18 PM

25nl, is this bad play or bad beat?
 
PokerStars Game #12382955593: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/01 - 19:08:53 (ET)
Table 'Zerlina' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Jacobs.S ($19.90 in chips)
Seat 2: numen0r1 ($22.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Steef86 ($17.85 in chips)
Seat 5: WiLpro ($26.45 in chips)
Seat 6: OnTheHustle ($26.10 in chips)
OnTheHustle: posts small blind $0.10
Jacobs.S: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WiLpro [Qs Ac]
numen0r1: calls $0.25
Steef86: folds
WiLpro: raises $0.75 to $1
OnTheHustle: calls $0.90
Jacobs.S: folds
numen0r1: folds
*** FLOP *** [As Tc 6d]
OnTheHustle: checks
WiLpro: bets $1.25
OnTheHustle: raises $2 to $3.25
WiLpro: calls $2
*** TURN *** [As Tc 6d] [5d]
OnTheHustle: bets $5.75
WiLpro: calls $5.75
*** RIVER *** [As Tc 6d 5d] [9d]
OnTheHustle: bets $16.10 and is all-in
WiLpro: ?

*edited out what i did* (LDO)

Should i be folding river bet?

Eric Yang 10-01-2007 07:24 PM

Re: 25nl, is this bad play or bad beat?
 
use a converter please
and yes i would fold to river bet as well, seeing as how the only thing he'd be bluffing is a missed flush draw... except that the flush draw completed. He's not gonna do this with air (if he wanted to make a dumb bluff with nothing he would have on the turn or flop) and he's not going to with Ax. Looks like a pretty obvious fold to me, although it sucks he hit his runner-runner.

Peleus 10-01-2007 07:28 PM

Re: 25nl, is this bad play or bad beat?
 
Yes and no ....

Firstly it depends on what you put the villain on. If you believe you are ahead with the AQ, then you will have to call it. Considering the aggression is shown through out the entire hand the 9 doesn't change anything you put the villain on. You cannot not call because that card comes unless you think he has like A9. Back door flush is pretty much irrelevant. If you're ahead before you're ahead now.

On the flip side, I don't know if I could call down that much aggression with that holding. I would say you would be up against a set or lucky two pair, or at least AK a lot more then something you would beat.

Cliff notes - Don't like being in that position so bad play in that sense, but you have to call the river as it is essentially a blank.

DonManuel 10-01-2007 07:36 PM

Re: 25nl, is this bad play or bad beat?
 
Do not post results. Now I don't know what to say

Waingro 10-01-2007 07:50 PM

Re: 25nl, is this bad play or bad beat?
 
I agree with Peleus, either fold earlier in the hand or donīt fold period. It is hard to put villain on a bd fd so that river card doesnīt change things that much. I think the decision is on the flop and what you put him on. Against many players that is a fold right there. I wouldnīt be surprised if AQ is at the bottom end of his range that he cr for value.


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