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DMSNI 10-01-2007 02:33 PM

Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
I figured I was up against a sf draw here or else trips was I right to fold or should I have called it down. Seat 5 is fairly tight/agressive ususally and I dont think he'd have bet like this if he couldn't beat aces.

7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.38 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___double-raises___calls
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___double-raises___double-raises

5th Street - (6.69 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (6.69 BB)

Brad1970 10-01-2007 02:51 PM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
What is a double raise?

PoorLawyer 10-01-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
Villain is obv. drawing pretty strong, but it doesnt necessarily mean the K made his hand. I think if a heart falls you can fold, but giving someone credit for a straight flush draw may be a bit presumptuous just because he threw in an extra 2 bucks on 4th. I think I call given the pot size and probably fold if he hits a heart and I haven't improved.

DMSNI 10-01-2007 03:59 PM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
$2 - I bet $2 then he raised to $4 - I re-raised $6 at which point seat 3 folded, and he re-raised again to $8.

DMSNI 10-01-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
I think my first thought was trip 10s - then thought maybe hes on a draw. So I decided to call the final raise on 4th and see what 5th would bring. When he showed no let up even though there was no suited card - I decided to quit. I figure he was either drawing very strong or already ahead.

2461Badugi 10-01-2007 04:04 PM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
There are a lot of dead hearts, so if he has a clue I think a big draw is unlikely. Looks a lot like trips, though. You're getting 3:1 or so to show down, so it's close even so. If this is somebody you play against a lot I'd call it down.

Merton0806 10-01-2007 06:06 PM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
You're getting 3:1 or so to show down, so it's close even so.

[/ QUOTE ]

maybe we can include T9 in his range?

Andy B 10-02-2007 02:26 AM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
If there's an open pair in high-only stud, you have the option to be the minimum or the maximum. By "double-bet" they mean the maximum. There is no open pair, however, so I'm guessing that there is a glitch in the converter.

Andy B 10-02-2007 02:31 AM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
When the other guy raises fourth, he's saying that either he has Aces beaten, or he doesn't think you have Aces. I would probably just call the raise and take it from there. You put too much money in the pot on fourth to be folding fifth, in my opinion. Two pair seems somewhat likely for the other guy, and you have lots of outs against that.

RandomUser 10-02-2007 07:25 AM

Re: Stud Hi, - was it right to fold aces here?
 
With the amount of money that went into the pot on 4th, I think you should call this down. Not only do you have proper equity to do so, but you will also learn something about villain's playing style.

I think that villain has a 4-flush or 2 pair a LOT more often than he has trips or a made straight.


Villains most likely hole cards are:


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