Comm 40: FU and your donk bets
 

Fantastic game yesterday evening; a good mix of folks who limp every hand and those who go crazy with bottom pair no kicker. Good times.

Two loose-passive fishy guys limp in MP, I am right behind them in the CO and raise QcJc. Blinds fold, limpers call. I have a pretty solid image up to this point.

Flop: J87 with one club

Check, second limper bets. I think a second and raise, first guy calls two bets, second guy calls.

Turn: 2 completing the rainbow.

Check, bet, I raise planning to fold to a c/r from the first limper.

Re: Comm 40: FU and your donk bets
 

i'd raise but wouldn't fold, too many two pair combinations that you can counterfeit.

Re: Comm 40: FU and your donk bets
 

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i'd raise but wouldn't fold, too many two pair combinations that you can counterfeit.

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Can you please list the probable two pair combinations that you can counterfeit?

OP, the line is fine. If first limper comes to life now, he didn't out turn you, he had you on the flop.

Garland

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i'd raise but wouldn't fold, too many two pair combinations that you can counterfeit.

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Truf. Call and fold a non-queen river that doesn't pair the board.

Re: Comm 40: FU and your donk bets
 

seems like you guys think it's heads up.

if the third player check 3-bets the turn, calling is pretty awesome. the only two pair hand you can counterfeit is 87 unless he expertly limped and check/coldcalled J2/82/72 on the flop.

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If the guy check/3bets you here he has a straight. He is loose passive, he is not going to check/3bet here 87 after you raised preflop, flop and turn. The raise on the turn is the only play you can possibly make. Folding to a check/3bet is also the only play you can make against the player that has been described.

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seems like you guys think it's heads up.

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Well, y'know, I did [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[censored] it I ain't talkin' no more.

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if the third player check 3-bets the turn, calling is pretty awesome. the only two pair hand you can counterfeit is 87 unless he expertly limped and check/coldcalled J2/82/72 on the flop.

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j7 and j8 also. anyways, i recant my statement, folding to tres-bet is best on the turn though i would never ever online which is all i've been playing nowadays.

Re: Comm 40: FU and your donk bets
 

Online your hand will be best often enough and he can have 87 so it makes a lot more sense to not fold. Commerce 40 he instantly loses and should not continue if he is c/3bet. Online I'm showing down expecting to lose usually but win often enough. Live I just rip up my cards.

Re: Comm 40: FU and your donk bets
 

OK, so people like the raise...

In this particular hand, the first limper folded and the donk bettor called.

Let's say the river card is "X" and I get donked into again. Are we ever raising again? Are we folding if X is a 9, T, or A?