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n4rf 09-30-2007 03:06 PM

QQ overpair on paired board, push on turn.
 
Villain is 20/20/2.5 over 80ish hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($10)
MP ($10.85)
Hero ($10.85)
Button ($2.95)
SB ($9.85)
BB ($11.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.85.

Flop: ($2.55) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, UTG calls $1.75.

Turn: ($8.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5.8 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

I had reraised this guy 2 hands ago with an AQ when he open raised. I didn't know if this had any affect on his turn move, maybe he thought I was playing with him. Also, turn bets/raises seem to mean monsters (or big hands).

Is this a fold or call? He raises with pretty standard cards (Pockets, big Aces, etc). I didn't figure him for a J since he seems pretty competent enough to lay down hands like KJ and AJ.

bsball8806 09-30-2007 03:31 PM

Re: QQ overpair on paired board, push on turn.
 
fold. I think KK, AA, 88 are likely. 10 10 isn't really an option here, and even if you think he folds KJ and AJ, they still beat us here.

avfletch 09-30-2007 03:45 PM

Re: QQ overpair on paired board, push on turn.
 
I think this is played fine up until the flop raise which is very small. When he calls your PFRR OOP I think we rule out AA/KK most if not all of the time so about the only thing we are scared of on the flop is a hand containing a J which really isn't that likely.

When you reraise him preflop you are creating an SPR of around 3.5 which is fine to commit to getting it allin with QQ when it flops as an overpair.

His flop lead could be testing you with a lower PP (especially if he's seen you 3bet AQ recently) or he could be leading something like A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and then taking the excellent pot odds you offered him with your flop raise.

All in all there are too many scare cards that can turn to consider flat calling the flop so I think I just move in on him and be done with it there.

itWASaDREAM 09-30-2007 05:11 PM

Re: QQ overpair on paired board, push on turn.
 
I think your flop raise sucks. you need to decide preflop if your commiting to his hand If you make an overpair. I think he may have a jack, but as tight as he seems, its hard for him to have a jack here. I shove, sigh, reload.


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