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raptor517 09-29-2007 09:02 PM

50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
as far as doodlefish, i havent played him much, but i always see him sitting 10-20 25-50 HU, and he was playing me HU 25-50 6max table, and then someone sat, and he asked if id do HU, and i said sure only 50-1 though, so he might be out of his comfort zone a bit, not sure if that makes too much of a difference.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $50/$100 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero: $9,850.00
DoodleFish: $10,150.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero calls $50.00, DoodleFish checks

Flop: ($200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">DoodleFish bets $100.00</font>, Hero calls $100.00

Turn: ($400) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">DoodleFish bets $300.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $975.00</font>, <font color="red">DoodleFish raises to $2,600.00</font>, Hero calls $1,625.00

River: ($5600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">DoodleFish bets $5,600.00</font>,
[i]Hero ?


thoughts on everything, though what im mainly interested in is the turn, i want to know how many ppl like a 4 bet here. ok thats it.

EmpireMaker2 09-29-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
I think I would play everything the same, and then toss a coin on the river....I think id lean towards calling

BLdSWtTRs 09-29-2007 09:31 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
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I think I would play everything the same, and then toss a coin on the river....I think id lean towards calling

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fslexcduck 09-29-2007 09:38 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
yeah i agree. i think a big part of this river is how aggressive he is OOP. vs most who would definitely raise 77 and 55 preflop, this is a pretty easy call since you really only lose to 68. Otherwise, it becomes much much closer.

jfish 09-29-2007 09:45 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
i like preflop fwiw and i think the turn is standard. on the river (given the same line as played), im interested to know if people are calling a PSB on a 2h, 3h, 4h etc river card. i think its definitely a fold as played, and think it should be a fold on blanks too (assuming its a PSB).

Nick Royale 09-29-2007 09:47 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
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yeah i agree. i think a big part of this river is how aggressive he is OOP. vs most who would definitely raise 77 and 55 preflop, this is a pretty easy call since you really only lose to 68. Otherwise, it becomes much much closer.

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I don't know how big impact him raising 77/55 or not preflop have. It's only 4 combos and 86 is 16. K9 is 6 more combos you're behind. So removing 4 combos from the 26 you're behind, does it really mean that much?

This seems like a fold to me, but obv I'm not playing anywhere near those limits...

fslexcduck 09-29-2007 09:52 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
i just dont know if he 3-bets K9 on the turn that often, but fair enough. The other thing is given the action, it seems a bit less likely for him to full pot 86 than a boat or a bluff. Not saying he wouldn't, but I don't think the math comes down to pure combinations... you should consider frequency and with that, sets do matter a bit more. But fair point.

Daliman 09-29-2007 10:08 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
If this was 10-20 or 25-50, I'd put a bluff in his range more often, but at 50-100, I think he's out of his comfort zone and his bluffing frequency will be severely diminished.

raptor517 09-29-2007 10:19 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
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If this was 10-20 or 25-50, I'd put a bluff in his range more often, but at 50-100, I think he's out of his comfort zone and his bluffing frequency will be severely diminished.

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fwiw i think the exact opposite.

Ansky 09-29-2007 10:24 PM

Re: 50-1 HU vs doodlefish
 
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If this was 10-20 or 25-50, I'd put a bluff in his range more often, but at 50-100, I think he's out of his comfort zone and his bluffing frequency will be severely diminished.

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fwiw i think the exact opposite.

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yeah we're not all nits like you dali

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