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The_Earner 09-29-2007 12:26 PM

NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
Villain runs 28/17/2 over about 300 hands

Have been tangling abit previously with villain (3 bet pots, etc.), but no big hands has gone to SD.

What do you guys think of my line up to this point and do you call/fold river?


** Ivmarus [Hold 'em] (10.00|20.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- nicky2006 sitting in seat 1 with $692.40 [Dealer]
- TheEarner sitting in seat 2 with $2576.00
- vulcania sitting in seat 3 with $2887.67
- Veppa sitting in seat 4 with $2000.00 [Sitting out]
- IFoldToAPush sitting in seat 5 with $1844.00
- Zavix sitting in seat 6 with $3977.00

TheEarner posted the small blind - $10.00
vulcania posted the big blind - $20.00
** Dealing card to TheEarner: Queen of Spades, 9 of Clubs
IFoldToAPush folded
Zavix folded
nicky2006 folded
TheEarner raised - $70.00
vulcania called - $70.00

** Dealing the flop: Queen of Hearts, 6 of Diamonds, Jack of Hearts
TheEarner bet - $105.00
vulcania raised - $355.00
TheEarner called - $355.00

** Dealing the turn: 7 of Diamonds
TheEarner checked
vulcania bet - $655.00
TheEarner called - $655.00

** Dealing the river: Queen of Diamonds
TheEarner checked
vulcania went all-in - $1827.67

AAismyfriend 09-29-2007 12:37 PM

Re: NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
wtf at calling the turn at you are not SNAP calling this river??

dlpnyc21 09-29-2007 03:15 PM

Re: NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villain runs 28/17/2 over about 300 hands

Have been tangling abit previously with villain (3 bet pots, etc.), but no big hands has gone to SD.

What do you guys think of my line up to this point and do you call/fold river?


** Ivmarus [Hold 'em] (10.00|20.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- nicky2006 sitting in seat 1 with $692.40 [Dealer]
- TheEarner sitting in seat 2 with $2576.00
- vulcania sitting in seat 3 with $2887.67
- Veppa sitting in seat 4 with $2000.00 [Sitting out]
- IFoldToAPush sitting in seat 5 with $1844.00
- Zavix sitting in seat 6 with $3977.00

TheEarner posted the small blind - $10.00
vulcania posted the big blind - $20.00
** Dealing card to TheEarner: Queen of Spades, 9 of Clubs
IFoldToAPush folded
Zavix folded
nicky2006 folded
TheEarner raised - $70.00
vulcania called - $70.00

** Dealing the flop: Queen of Hearts, 6 of Diamonds, Jack of Hearts
TheEarner bet - $105.00
vulcania raised - $355.00
TheEarner called - $355.00

** Dealing the turn: 7 of Diamonds
TheEarner checked
vulcania bet - $655.00
TheEarner called - $655.00

** Dealing the river: Queen of Diamonds
TheEarner checked
vulcania went all-in - $1827.67

[/ QUOTE ]


i can't see your hand being good here very often, unless the villain frequently fires three barrels. I would have folded turn, as there aren't many cards you hope to see. As it happened, I would still fold river, although if he is decent I guess he could turn a counterfeited two pair into a bluff, but that really doesn't make much sense at all as Qx is your most likely hand and I doubt he would try and bluff you off it.

HeheOkok 09-29-2007 03:32 PM

Re: NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
I agree that if you're calling the turn, you need to call this river. And I am calling turn vs this opponent pretty often from what I've seen.

Kyuss 09-29-2007 04:51 PM

Re: NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
Why did you even get to river with this hand!?!?

The_Earner 09-30-2007 06:44 AM

Re: NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
What makes it a call on the river, just because we call the turn?
Wouldn't we be more inclined to call the river if it was an blank insteed of a Q?

I agree to what dlpnyc21 said about folding the river, it's an insane spot to try to bluff me off a Q. Witch is my most likely holding...

About calling the turn; I think you need to call some % of the time here against this oppenent, because his 2 barrel frekvence will be verry high against me, and on this board inperticerly. I also belive that we need to call the river sometimes...

What about C/R AI on the turn? Someone who preferes that insteed of calling?

Christophers 09-30-2007 02:54 PM

Re: NL 10/20 blind battle, sick spot with tripps
 
The river doesn't really improve your hand, you basically have 88 here and I don't think most people view the Q on the river as a good bluffing card at all. I'd fold.


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