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Rounder101 09-28-2007 07:34 PM

KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($57.70)
CO ($110)
Button ($148.45)
Hero ($99)
BB ($58.65)
UTG ($134.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $8.50.

Flop: ($25.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, CO calls $18.

Turn: ($61.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $26</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero??

Rounder101 09-28-2007 08:07 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
villain is 17/13/1.8

Nick Royale 09-28-2007 08:12 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
Meh, I probably just fold preflop most of the time. Given preflop I don't mind checking out on the flop. Now I just fold, weak huh?

mrpav.com 09-28-2007 10:33 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
I agree, i would fold PF, but if you played the hand as you did, you have to call the river, AK and AA beats you here, so only 2 hands, but i would of folded PF unless the player is super agro. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Bluegrassplayer 09-28-2007 10:38 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
I don't really think this is a tough decision. You're getting 3 to 1 and likely to have the best hand. I would have folded this pf as well, but I constantly see people on these boards advocating a 3bet with hands like this to try take down the pot early, I don't really get it.

nazahl 09-28-2007 10:42 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
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Meh, I probably just fold preflop most of the time. Given preflop I don't mind checking out on the flop. Now I just fold, weak huh?

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if you're gonna play this (and probably should most of the time) then I definitely think 3betting it pf is ur best option. you just gotta put on the brakes if you flop tp and get called on a dry flop.

Nick Royale 09-28-2007 10:55 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
Ok, to all in this thread. On the turn we're making the decision if we want to stack off our remaining $70 (not $26 as calling turn and folding river would be bad). There's no reason for him to bet more than $26 with a better hand on the turn because of stack sizes and the relatively dry board. All still like to stack off? Anyone calling the turn and folding the river? What do you guys put him on?

Edit: Just realised he's unknown, thought he was passive for some reason. If we're 3-betting preflop we should stack off here. Betting turn is better in that case. Folding preflop is still better imo.

Nick Royale 09-28-2007 11:00 PM

Re: KQ3bPF, tough decission on turn
 
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Meh, I probably just fold preflop most of the time. Given preflop I don't mind checking out on the flop. Now I just fold, weak huh?

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if you're gonna play this (and probably should most of the time) then I definitely think 3betting it pf is ur best option. you just gotta put on the brakes if you flop tp and get called on a dry flop.

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I don't think 3-betting an unknown should be standard. Calling is better imo. Folding is better as well.


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