X-Post: Settle this Poker Theory debate
 

NL 100: <font color="red"> Player A</font> gets K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10x in a row, while <font color="blue"> player B</font> gets A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10x in a row. They go all in every hand and <font color="red">player A</font> (KK) <u>wins them all</u>. There is no rake. Player A is +$1000.

They agree to go to NL 1,000: <font color="red">Player A</font> gets A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and <font color="blue">player B</font> gets K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. They go all in and <font color="blue">Player B wins</font>. Now they have the same amount of money from when they started.

What is the EV of player A ?
EV of player B ?
Is he running good , bad , or neutral ? <font color="red"> </font>

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follow up question:


NL 100: <font color="red"> Player A</font> gets K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3x in a row, while <font color="blue"> player B</font> gets A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3x in a row. They go all in every hand and <font color="red">player A</font> (KK) <u>wins them all</u>. There is no rake. Player A is +$300.

They agree to go to NL 300: <font color="red">Player A</font> gets A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and <font color="blue">player B</font> gets K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. They go all in and <font color="blue">Player B wins</font>. Now they have the same amount of money from when they started.

What is the EV of player A ?
EV of player B ?
Is he running good , bad , or neutral ? <font color="red"> </font>

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answer: the deck is rigged

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how is this even a debate? both players have the same EV and both players are running neutral.

second situation is equivalent.

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no they dont have the same ev.

player a's ev is as follows

3 x 20 + 80 = 140 BBs

he actually ended up with 250 bbs. thats pretty far from neutral

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ev is measured in dollars, not bbs. you can't just take a shot at 5/10 with a $3k roll and lose it all, and be like "welp, I'm up 600bbs on the month." since you made 900bbs at .02/.04 or something. it doesn't tell you any information of value. it's neutral EV, perioddd

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Ummmm, I think if there is ever a situation to fold KK pf HU, this is it.

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i suppose u think when aba loses 200k hes running worse than an msnler who loses 20k. BBs are all that matter, dollars tell u nothing since limits change but number of BBs is a constant, perioddd

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Player A is running waaayyy above his expectation.