100NL facing river c/r
 

Villain is unknown. This line seems very strange to me. Is this an easy call on the river? Could he have made worse 2-pair? Is this nearly always the straight?

I was very confused by this river bet. I mean if he flopped a big hand or was helped out by the turn wouldn't I have heard from him sooner?

Does anyone fold here?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($52.85)
CO ($93.40)
Button ($101)
SB ($215.10)
BB ($20.70)
Hero ($194.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($22.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12, BB folds.

River: ($46.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $65</font>, Hero ???

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

your flop call is pretty suspect. but at least you ahve position.

call. TJ is no good on the river.

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

fold river. how often is a river check raise ever a bluff. (never) i doubt hes doin this with a weaker two pair.

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

is flop call really that suspect?

i am closing the betting getting 4.5 to 1 playing 200bb deep vs. sb

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

I'd call river since it looks a lot like JT and you turn/river bets are pretty weak looking.

I'd def. bet more on the turn. like 16 or 17 sounds about right

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

Make bigger turn bet.

As played, call river

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

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is flop call really that suspect?

i am closing the betting getting 4.5 to 1 playing 200bb deep vs. sb

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you often have reverse pot odds and if lucky you have 20% equity.

Re: 100NL facing river c/r
 

geezzz fold flop, either bet a lot more on the turn or check it to induce (betting is much better), call river. This hand is all kinds of screwy.