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sublime 09-27-2007 09:59 PM

missing a flop early with AK
 
villain is unknown. i have chopped a big all in very early in which a guy LRR with QQ and we ended up AI on the flop.

anyways, should i c/f here? shove?

$150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/09/27 - 21:40:50 (ET)

Seat 1: kevinn1 (2895 in chips)
Seat 2: phinster (2635 in chips)
Seat 3: Bama Scooter (5725 in chips)
Seat 4: rjmoney (5875 in chips)
Seat 5: sublime79 (1705 in chips)
Seat 6: Ynenk03 (8895 in chips)
Seat 7: hoelzl (2115 in chips)
Seat 8: UW-Madman (2785 in chips)
Seat 9: Raw Kat (3050 in chips)
sublime79: posts small blind 25
Ynenk03: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sublime79 [As Kh]
hoelzl: folds
UW-Madman: raises 150 to 200
Raw Kat: folds
kevinn1: folds
phinster: folds
Bama Scooter: folds
rjmoney: folds
sublime79: raises 400 to 600
Ynenk03: folds
UW-Madman: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [5c 8h 6h]
sublime79:

ASPoker8 09-27-2007 10:24 PM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
If i'm in your spot and I elect to 3bet, i'm shoving any flop (except when its perfect and checking gets value)

Seems like a go-and-go

sublime 09-27-2007 10:50 PM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
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and I elect to 3bet,

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how often do you call and what dictates it?

ASPoker8 09-27-2007 10:56 PM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
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and I elect to 3bet,

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how often do you call and what dictates it?

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Almost never

I might just shove over his 4X.
We have to shove or go-and-go imo

Superfluous Man 09-27-2007 11:37 PM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
You don't even have a PSB, stick it in. If he calls with a PP, pretend you shoved preflop and it was a flip.

sublime 09-28-2007 12:58 AM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
shoved, had TT. figured it was routine but wanted to ask.

mwalsh2020 09-28-2007 02:06 AM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
isnt a shove pre here standard?

getballed 09-28-2007 11:17 AM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
You should of shoved this preflop, its horrible to just call here.

PhatPots 09-28-2007 01:29 PM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
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You should of shoved this preflop, its horrible to just call here.

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Wtf? makes no sense? Villain raises to 200 and hero is to suppose to re-raise to 2,700?

the response don't make sense to me.

ASPoker8 09-28-2007 01:54 PM

Re: missing a flop early with AK
 
Shoving preflop is in no way standard when you're shoving 34 BBs over a 4bb open.

Its definitely good and may even be the best line, but you have to consider and probably mix in go-and-go's.

Calling sort of sucks


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