NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

Hero ($885.70)
Button ($178.00)
SB ($648.75)
BB (Villain)($657.00)

Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero raise to $24
Button calls
SB calls
BB calls

Pot($96)
Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB checks
BB bets $48
Hero calls
Button folds
SB folds

Pot ($192)
Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB checks
Hero bets $96
BB instantly raises to $384

What should hero do, it is $288 to call in a ~$650 pot? BB is laggy, seems to be pretty good player.

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

raise flop?

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

This may be trivial but anyway:
It looks like a missed bet-3bet om flop.

If he is laggy enough to play many draws and pair+draw hands like this, I probably push turn since it bricked.

If he usually 3bets 88 and 99 in position 4 handed it becomes an even easier push I think, then we are only really worried about 33 and 89 and ahead of a billion draws.

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

Meh I don't get away, especially given your bet sizing. I'd bet more on the turn. Flop call is fine.

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

The good odds you are getting are somewhat mitigated by the awkward stack sizes. After his raise he has 201 left, so this is push/fold.

Against many players I would fold, but I would push this against a laggy pretty good player. I think on this board with this line there is way more semi-bluffing hands then sets and 2 pair in his range.

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

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Meh I don't get away, especially given your bet sizing. I'd bet more on the turn. Flop call is fine.

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Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

Whats so good about the flop call? We're pricing in so much [censored] to outdraw us its crazy.

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

Often flop calls in similar spots are OK but 4 ways I'd raise. Turn sucks but I'd go ahead and stack off.

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

you can't bet half pot on the turn and then fold

Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board
 

flop is fine now either check or bet/call the turn especially if you bet halfpot