QQ tough spot
 

SB is 52/8 and his flop AF is 2.89 over 112 hands
BB is 47/11 and his flop AF is 2.7 over 90 hands

FullTiltPoker Game #3676445309: Table Swimmer (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:44:37 ET - 2007/09/26
Seat 1: Player 1 ($4.25), is sitting out
Seat 2: SB ($17.50)
Seat 3: BB ($5.40)
Seat 4: UTG ($1.40)
Seat 5: Hero ($10)
Seat 6: Button ($15.95)
SB posts the small blind of $0.05
BB posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qd Qh]
UTG folds
Hero raises to $0.35
Button folds
SB has 15 seconds left to act
SB calls $0.30
BB calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [6c 3s 8h]
SB bets $1.05
BB raises to $5.05, and is all in
Hero ?

im not sure whether to fold or shove to try and isolate UTG. Im pretty sure i have the BB beat as he often leads into flops with nothing.
sorry i didnt use hand converter it kept misreading the hh. ty

Re: QQ tough spot
 

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $17.50
BB: $5.40
UTG: $1.40
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $15.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.05</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $5.05</font>

Pot Size: $7.15

I cant put either of them on a better hand than you.

My line here would be to call BB's shove intending to jam the turn on SB if he calls. SB is going to call with a draw anyways and I want him to think his pocketpair/toppair is good if he doesn't have a draw.

Re: QQ tough spot
 

overshove all day
SB lead pot and he's calling another 4$ as much as he's calling 8.

Re: QQ tough spot
 

Does the BB raise flop donks with nothing, too?

Either way, I'd shove here. I don't see how you can get away from this after calling off half your stack, and there's no way I'd give either of those two credit for anything beating you. If it's a set or something that's tough luck, but I'm paying off these players on that flop everytime.

Re: QQ tough spot
 

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My line here would be to call BB's shove intending to jam the turn on SB if he calls. SB is going to call with a draw anyways and I want him to think his pocketpair/toppair is good if he doesn't have a draw.

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You really think the SB is going to think A8 is good here after someone has raised him 5x the pot and the PFR has called? I guess maybe he might call TT or something here that he'd fold to a shove, but honestly, if the SB calls either the existing bet or a shove, we're probably in trouble. I agree he's not getting odds to call the only possible draw as it is, but if he's gonna make a bad call with that draw we might as well make it an even worse call now before he bricks the turn.