nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

I know i played this hand terriby but i had a note on villain that he leaded with AIR. villain is 44/20 and i think he likes to bluff but river confused me a lot. Against i know i played this hand horribly just wondering about river.

POKERSTARS GAME #12246945393: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/09/24 - 16:43:54 (ET)
Table 'Vindobona V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dilith ($334.25 in chips)
Seat 2: balltrader5 ($464.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Pumuckel1 ($323.70 in chips)
Seat 4: DunnLosing ($127.95 in chips)
Seat 5: Cram ($62.15 in chips)
Seat 6: aragon ($196 in chips)
Seat 7: McClure84 ($123.70 in chips)
Seat 8: Alexmdm ($156.85 in chips)
Seat 9: ArgusBank ($290.50 in chips)
Alexmdm: posts small blind $1
ArgusBank: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dilith [Ah Ac]
Dilith: raises $6 to $8
balltrader5: folds
Pumuckel1: folds
DunnLosing: folds
Cram: folds
aragon: folds
McClure84: folds
Alexmdm: folds
ArgusBank: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Qs 5s 6c]
ArgusBank: bets $8
Dilith: calls $8 --------------> i know raise flop
*** TURN *** [Qs 5s 6c] [4c]
ArgusBank: bets $15
Dilith: calls $15
*** RIVER *** [Qs 5s 6c 4c] [5h]
ArgusBank: bets $30
Dilith: raises $46 to $76
ArgusBank: raises $74 to $150 -----------> wtf /suicide

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

Raise the flop because he can be leading with a multitude of draws.

If the flop were like Q-8-3 rainbow I'd like flat-calling better.

I like the river raise, but you have to fold.

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

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I know i played this hand terriby but i had a note on villain that he leaded with AIR. villain is 44/20 and i think he likes to bluff but river confused me a lot. Against i know i played this hand horribly just wondering about river.

POKERSTARS GAME #12246945393: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/09/24 - 16:43:54 (ET)
Table 'Vindobona V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dilith ($334.25 in chips)
Seat 2: balltrader5 ($464.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Pumuckel1 ($323.70 in chips)
Seat 4: DunnLosing ($127.95 in chips)
Seat 5: Cram ($62.15 in chips)
Seat 6: aragon ($196 in chips)
Seat 7: McClure84 ($123.70 in chips)
Seat 8: Alexmdm ($156.85 in chips)
Seat 9: ArgusBank ($290.50 in chips)
Alexmdm: posts small blind $1
ArgusBank: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dilith [Ah Ac]
Dilith: raises $6 to $8
balltrader5: folds
Pumuckel1: folds
DunnLosing: folds
Cram: folds
aragon: folds
McClure84: folds
Alexmdm: folds
ArgusBank: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Qs 5s 6c]
ArgusBank: bets $8
Dilith: calls $8 --------------> i know raise flop
*** TURN *** [Qs 5s 6c] [4c]
ArgusBank: bets $15
Dilith: calls $15
*** RIVER *** [Qs 5s 6c 4c] [5h]
ArgusBank: bets $30
Dilith: raises $46 to $76
ArgusBank: raises $74 to $150 -----------> wtf /suicide

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Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

I think you should have called river since you did not raise on any other street. You have absolutely no idea what villain has. Raising there would only get called by AQ and get pushed by many other hands that beat you. As played fold.

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

i HATE folding AA on paired boards but i might actually somehow fold here

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

Your hand is way too underrepresented to fold here imo.

You know you shoulda raised the flop. Nothing much to add i guess. He could have a set of 6s, he could have AQ. Who knows, you didnt find out with this line.

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

as played fold

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

i would have just called the river, don't agree with the raise there. if you were to raise, should have been on the turn. he may be leading into you with a flopped set, or 78s. not much value raising the river imo.

as played, fold

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

I was the villian in this hand. I rivered quad fives.

Re: nl 200 AA reraised on river
 

Raise the flop to $24-$30.

As played, I would have called the river lead instead of raised it. But as played, I think you should fold to the reraise.

If you decide to raise for value on the river, then it should be under the assumption that top pair hands (i.e. AQ,KQ) will call a small raise on the end, missed draws and bluffs all fold, and only better hands (78s,66,56s,etc.) all raise. You need to be reasonably confident that this guy won't reraise TPTK on this paired board, that he won't bluff reraise with a missed draw (or some other bluff), that he will have AQ/KQ/Other-top-pair more often than a hand better than yours in order to justify a raise for value on the river. If all those assumptions are valid, then raising for value on the river with a plan to fold to a reraise makes sense. And since you raised, and he reraised, then you should fold since the assumption that made the raise +EV in the first place was that he'd only do that with better hands.