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AL5AcE 09-24-2007 08:13 PM

50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
Villan seems like a standard pstars player, not too good. I was actually happy at the 8 being a safe river card. What is the right play???

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $46.45
BB: $53.15
UTG: $38.50
CO: $68.80
Hero (BTN): $54.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, CO calls $9.00

Turn: ($30.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($30.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $53.80</font>, Hero calls all-in for $39.70
Uncalled bet of $14.10 returned to CO

Pot Size: $110.15 ($2 Rake)
<font color="white"> </font>
CO had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$53.45)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$54.70) <font color="white"> </font> <font color="white"> </font>

Gullanian 09-24-2007 08:30 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
y check turn?

kolotoure 09-24-2007 08:33 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
Bet the turn for obv reasons yo and river is prob a fold

thing85 09-24-2007 08:37 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
Raise a little bit more PF, bet turn. I probably make a crying call on the river

icanadd 09-24-2007 09:04 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
I think you should bet 15-20 on the turn for value. As played I think that I fold the river

members_only 09-24-2007 09:14 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
Why are people so reluctant to call the river???

mackthefork 09-24-2007 09:15 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
That big bet/call on the flop means he can have hands like 89s or 68s a lot, once two eights are on the board I don't think you beat a lot, even if you did happen to be ahead on the turn.

Mack

Gigglegirl 09-24-2007 09:30 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villan seems like a standard pstars player, not too good. I was actually happy at the 8 being a safe river card. What is the right play???

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $46.45
BB: $53.15
UTG: $38.50
CO: $68.80
Hero (BTN): $54.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, CO calls $9.00

Turn: ($30.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($30.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $53.80</font>, Hero calls all-in for $39.70
Uncalled bet of $14.10 returned to CO

Pot Size: $110.15 ($2 Rake)
<font color="white"> </font>
CO had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$53.45)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$54.70) <font color="white"> </font> <font color="white"> </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Well judging by his preflop and flop action, you're right, this guy is pretty bad.
And considering the turn added 2nd pair to his already massive combo of 1 overcard + gutshot call on flop, you were destined to go broke if you had bet the turn as he was never folding and you'd now have to call the river.
As played, the fact that it came runner, runner 8 makes the river a hard fold as the only hand that you could think he could hit was maybe 89s or he slowplayed a set and just boated up?
It depends on whether he's the sorta Villain who plays wierd cards and then only shoves the goods or he's the sorta Villain who plays wierd cards and constantly bluffs scare cards.

members_only 09-24-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
Whichever sort of villain he is, he could quite legitimately be value betting a lot of hands that you beat here after you check the turn behind. Not to mention bluffs. It's not that much over a pot-sized bet

AA, re-raised pot, you're going to go broke aren't you? (Esp on a fairly unscary board.) I thought that was standard. Also a slightly larger 3-bet pre-flop would prob be better

sheera 09-24-2007 09:55 PM

Re: 50NL, AA, @#$% river, what do I Dooooo?
 
flop: bet AT LEAST pot size. there is nothing wrong with betting 1.5 the pot size espec on dangerous flops like these

turn: shove

river: call as played


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