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corsakh 09-24-2007 11:33 AM

Over on a wheel board
 
Dont know, looks standard, may be just paranoid.

50NL iPoker, villain just sat down
100bb

Villain limps UTG, somebody else limps, tight SB raises 2.5, I call with 99, Villain calls, limper folds.

Flop like 534r $8

SB bets $6, I call, Villain raises to $21, Hero ???

I just edited for bet sizes.

Bad Beat Maker 09-24-2007 11:35 AM

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corsakh 09-24-2007 11:37 AM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
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zooot 09-24-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
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Fold, you played it badly. 4x BB + 1 BB per limper in this situation. Seems loose passive from UTG and UTG+1 limps?

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Are you saying repop the tight SB raiser pre?

Maybe I'm misreading action - isn't OP in BB calling SB raise over UTG + MP limpers?

Spurious 09-24-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
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Fold, you played it badly. 4x BB + 1 BB per limper in this situation. Seems loose passive from UTG and UTG+1 limps?

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He had no chance to raise first.


Ok, back to the hand. I think he'd do this with any kind of overpair.
Call and fold are close.
Is open-limp, call raise a line JJ+ would take?
I put him on some kind of PP:
33-TT is my range.

But how to proceed.
And I'm lost.
I'd call here and see what he does on the turn.

corsakh 09-24-2007 11:48 AM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
I cant call here. Too much in the pot already, if I call I have 25 behind in a 50 pot.

catoandtonic 09-24-2007 11:55 AM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
I assume villain has a full stack. I like a fold. Well, I hate it, but its better than playing for stacks. If we play on, then we have to assume draws are a large part of villains range. Even lower pp's except 88 have a straight draw. So, there are a ton of bad turn cards that we could pay to see, then be forced to fold to. I dont think calling is a good play anyways.

Raising is certainly building a huge pot with very marginal hand. I would need villain to be a complete aggro-monkey spewtank to stack here. I think I would say to myself good bet 66 and fold.

Spurious 09-24-2007 11:58 AM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
hmmm
i think it's close

Board: 5c 4d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.998% 42.82% 03.18% 14412 1071.00 { 9c9d }
Hand 1: 54.002% 50.82% 03.18% 17106 1071.00 { TT-33 }

My range might be off, but 77,88 probably wont call an AI.
I guess i'd fold.

catoandtonic 09-24-2007 12:06 PM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
Spurious,

I think 22 is a definite possibility. Also, 56s and 67s. Little more unlikly, but possible is A7 and A6. Note that A7 is open ended. Just for kicks.


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Board: 5s 4h 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.511% 44.09% 02.42% 24008 1317.00 { 9c9d }
Hand 1: 53.489% 51.07% 02.42% 27808 1317.00 { TT-22, A7s-A6s, 76s, 65s }

nutstoyou 09-24-2007 12:09 PM

Re: Over on a wheel board
 
I fold this, thinking he either has a set or a made straight. He bet into a SB raiser pre-flop and a SB 2/3 bet on the flop, then a cold call by you. I think this is almost never a bluff and almost never a lower pp than you have.


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