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timmay28 09-23-2007 11:10 PM

$33+3, rough spot with 99
 
Knowing full well that UTG is about to bust, I figure I'd limp anyway to see if I could flop a set and pick up some extra chips. I did... then I get an evil turn.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t460
Button: t4280
Hero: t2190
BB: t6570

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Button calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>, Hero calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t600, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t400</font>, BB folds, Button calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1000)</font>.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1400, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero

stu-unger 09-23-2007 11:28 PM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
i shove here a lot pf, that may be a leak. i can see calling pf.

flop is fine, turn seems like a value shove to me. the only hands improved are 68, and 36, and a check completely sucks...

DuderinoAB 09-23-2007 11:36 PM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
I don't like calling preflop as any halfway decent bigstack will just shove and you'll have to fold. If you know he's passive then I guess its fine. I tend to shove here quite a bit as well...maybe it is a leak.

alex-star 09-23-2007 11:47 PM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
def shove. your FE is huge here. Noone is calling without JJ+ AK.

vers 09-24-2007 01:11 AM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
I shove pre. Umm how is that an evil turn card. It completes one reasonable draw, 68. He limped the button to open. Do you think button limps 68o/68s? Shove turn.

AMT 09-24-2007 01:26 AM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
bet/call a shove on the turn, your decisions remain simple thankfully.

09-24-2007 01:29 AM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
shove pre,

bet-sizing on turn? hero has t1590 pot has t1400,

vers 09-24-2007 01:37 AM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
betting 700 looks kinda weird, a little too strong. Shoving turn makes it look weak like you are protecting tp or 2nd pair.

AMT 09-24-2007 02:47 AM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
[ QUOTE ]
shove pre,

bet-sizing on turn? hero has t1590 pot has t1400,

[/ QUOTE ]

it doesnt even matter so much, youre not folding at this point, generally shoving is fine, but i dont know that theres a huge different without a read between that and betting 800.

Q.. 09-24-2007 04:36 AM

Re: $33+3, rough spot with 99
 
I like it this way, as for the turn can't see whats evil in it.. with top set only 63 and 68 beats you?
As for the turn bet whatever is more likely to be called by button, allin if hes suspicious or 700-800 if that won't scare him. I think i like allin more here.

As for the shove i don't think they would be JJ+ AK tight here on calling it, game for them is like 3 handed so they'd call on all cards which call it 3 handed. so i don't think ATs+ ,77+,KQ is folding it.


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