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Hoopster81 09-21-2007 05:15 PM

check or bet?
 
SB is a maniac - running at 80/46/4 over 200 hands. Hadn't seen him 3-bet before, but I'm playing a lot of tables.

BB is baronzeus - he is like 33/15/3




Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $925.60
BB: $200.00
UTG: $462.35
Hero (CO): $216.20
BTN: $154.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $23.00</font>, BB calls $21.00, Hero calls $16.00

Flop: ($69) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero?

Rob121 09-21-2007 05:25 PM

Re: check or bet?
 
i pot this, you should have a some fold equity.

Elrazor 09-21-2007 06:11 PM

Re: check or bet?
 
i pot this - you have about 35% equity against random 45 or a set, and im sure if either of them had 45w/hearts they are potting here, so i doubt if either of them call they have significant blockers. if you bet here and one of them shoves you are getting around 2-1 so its an easy call

i think in these spots, decent LAGS dont usually slowplay as this is how they get paid so well, and if the TAG has a hand i dont get the check from him at all, as hes usually giving a free card here

Hoopster81 09-21-2007 10:25 PM

Re: check or bet?
 
Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $925.60
BB: $200.00
UTG: $462.35
Hero (CO): $216.20
BTN: $154.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $23.00</font>, BB calls $21.00, Hero calls $16.00

Flop: ($69) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $60, SB raises to $120</font>, BB folds, Hero?

shoves? is there any point to call/call?

Parlay Slow 09-21-2007 11:04 PM

Re: check or bet?
 
I don't see any point to call/call

Rob121 09-22-2007 12:52 AM

Re: check or bet?
 
what a gay minraise, just shove it.

Aisthesis 09-22-2007 02:37 AM

Re: check or bet?
 
With a good deal more stack depth, I'd probably call. I think even against a maniac, you're behind frequently here (KK w K-high flush draw, similarly QQ, and he can have 54, top 2, set). But here, you might as well push, as you're going to have to call for stack anyway, so anything &gt; 0% fold equity is good. Admittedly, I doubt he folds anything that's ahead of your hand.

I'm not all that fond of the PF raise, but I play almost no 6max, so I may be way off base there. I wouldn't mind calling a raise with that hand, but I think the percentages are too low for me to want to raise it myself.

Elrazor 09-22-2007 03:52 AM

Re: check or bet?
 
[ QUOTE ]
what a gay minraise, just shove it.

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