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Wynton 09-21-2007 12:24 PM

worst bullpen for a championship team
 
I was just wondering whether anyone can think of a team that won the World Series with a poor, overall bullpen.

Don't they always (at least in the last 15 years or so) have at least one decent setup guy and one fairly reliable closer?

Jack of Arcades 09-21-2007 12:27 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
06 cards? No big weaknesses, but their best reliever only had a 3.12 ERA.

01 Diamondbacks - BH Kim, lol.
03 Marlins only had Uggy for 38 innings. Their closer was (lol) Braden Looper.


punkass 09-21-2007 01:34 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
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06 cards? No big weaknesses, but their best reliever only had a 3.12 ERA.

01 Diamondbacks - BH Kim, lol.
03 Marlins only had Uggy for 38 innings. Their closer was (lol) Braden Looper.



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But in those years, wasn't BYKim and Looper really good?

THAY3R 09-21-2007 01:42 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
They combined for like a 12 ERA in the World Series.

FlyWf 09-21-2007 02:48 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
Yeah, but that's not the question. Kim was great that year, he just got worn to the ground by an overzealous manager. They had a decent pen.

06 Cards are the worst WS winning team at pretty much everything so you really need a "besides the 06 Cards".

Most decent teams have at least 2 decent relievers, though, so this is kind of a silly question. I can't think of very many WS teams that were terrible at anything, and having less than 2 good relievers definitely qualifies as terrible.

Jack of Arcades 09-21-2007 02:57 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
Kim was pretty good, not what I'd call "great," but he wasn't crap. Looper was bad though.

THAY3R 09-21-2007 04:19 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
Playoff teams typically have 2 decent relievers?


GTFO!

THAY3R 09-21-2007 04:20 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
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Baseball teams typically have 2 decent relievers?


GTFO!

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FMP

BobOjedaFan 09-21-2007 05:43 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
If the 1986 Red Sox could have gotten one more out, Id Say them. Calvin Schiraldi, Bob Stanley, Joe Sambito, Al Nipper, oooh scary

stormstarter28 09-21-2007 08:57 PM

Re: worst bullpen for a championship team
 
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Yeah, but that's not the question. Kim was great that year, he just got worn to the ground by an overzealous manager. They had a decent pen.

06 Cards are the worst WS winning team at pretty much everything so you really need a "besides the 06 Cards".


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Nuh-uh, we had the best over-achieving pitchers in playoff history. Weaver/Suppan/Reyes DOMINATED. God I love playoff baseball.


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