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timex 09-20-2007 05:05 PM

200r, BB is a clown
 
Hes already done some dumb stuff in the first 30ish minutes at the table, but I don't think he ever has like a suited connector type thing when he 3bets here, probably always 3bets AA/KK, usually 3bets QQ and AK, and sometimes 3bets JJ/TT/99 type stuff.

PokerStars Game #12170051742: Tournament #70000009, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/09/20 - 16:46:18 (ET)
Table '70000009 228' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: AMAK316 (16910 in chips)
Seat 2: Tîmex (22362 in chips)
Seat 3: shiptosails (9540 in chips)
Seat 4: toomanydonks (2490 in chips)
Seat 5: Iteopepe88 (14100 in chips)
Seat 6: Lars-Magne (17055 in chips)
Seat 7: berti69 (13315 in chips)
Seat 8: ChipMovr (23280 in chips)
Seat 9: kunkku (38395 in chips)
ChipMovr: posts small blind 50
kunkku: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tîmex [Tc 9c]
AMAK316: folds
Tîmex: raises 200 to 300
shiptosails: folds
toomanydonks: folds
Iteopepe88: folds
Lars-Magne: folds
berti69: folds
ChipMovr: calls 250
kunkku: raises 1200 to 1500
Tîmex: calls 1200
ChipMovr: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [6c Jc Jd]
ChipMovr: checks
kunkku: bets 2500
Tîmex: calls 2500
ChipMovr: folds
*** TURN *** [6c Jc Jd] [Qs]
kunkku: checks
Tîmex ???

Thoughts on preflop call? Flop call? Whats your play on the turn?

stevepa 09-20-2007 06:22 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
I think I like checking here. If he has TT/99, AK, you can probably bluff the river when he checks. He's never folding better and it's a complete disaster if he crs.

Kala1928 09-20-2007 06:23 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
I guess this is how he got his big stack.

nath 09-20-2007 06:39 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
btw i just noticed your stars name has the carat over the i

that's awesome

TheNewf 09-20-2007 07:14 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
ya I would check and get there

Todd Terry 09-20-2007 07:40 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
I think his range is super narrow at this point in the hand: {QQ, AK}. I would expect a turn bet out of AA, KK. I think TT and 99 are unlikely given that you raised UTG+1, plus you have one of each in your hand.

The problem with checking is that if he bets into you on the river after you get there, I think you have to just call (unless an offsuit K comes, then it's probably a raise), which means you're not winning a huge pot here if you get there. You might as well bet the turn to try to take it down and make them the last chips you put in the pot. I think if you get C/R on the turn there's a good chance that you're drawing dead. Same with a C/C on the turn followed by a river bet.

I like the preflop call, but I hold the world record for most 3bets called with suited connectors. Flop call is good as well, you can't raise here because the likelihood of getting blown off the hand is too great. And folding a flush draw against a preflop 3bettor is unthinkable.

NHFunkii 09-21-2007 09:13 AM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
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I think I like checking here. If he has TT/99, AK, you can probably bluff the river when he checks. He's never folding better and it's a complete disaster if he crs.

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I doubt he's folding TT/99 either, and he might even call with AK, so I dont really like a river bluff

Requin 09-21-2007 12:23 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
I'd check. Also I'd want to be more certain that villain has AA/KK before calling PF.

aaaaaaaa 09-21-2007 10:27 PM

Re: 200r, BB is a clown
 
does he fold ak to a min raise on flop? does he 3 bet with qq,kk,aa here if u raise? if he folds ak here and dont 3 bet overpairs i like a min raise.


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