A8o EP low M
 

this was at a $200+30 live event but it's proly too easy a decision for the High stakes forum and I just posted two hands there.

I just doubled up to around 5k but the blinds are 300/600. I was also just moved to this table. no reads. I'm in UTG+1. UTG thinks, seems like he's contemplating a raise. then folds. push or fold? and what does UTG's actions represent - a weak ace? a pair? suited connector? can't tell?

Re: A8o EP low M
 

On a full table this is a fold for me - but i actually have no pushbot charts here at work

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On a full table this is a fold for me

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On a full table this is a fold for me - but i actually have not pushbot charts here at work

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I'm pretty sure A8o is not on the chart with this stack size from UTG+1. You'll either get looked up by mid-high pockets, or Ax (x > 8), and you have 3 outs in both cases. Fold and wait for a better chance.

Re: A8o EP low M
 

Pushbot chart says fold, but remember that pushbot chart says what is +EV if you turned your cards face up, so you might go a little looser with your cards face down. I mention this because pushbot chart says A9o is push.

Re: A8o EP low M
 

pushbot chart assumes 10 handed and we're 11 handed. also, pushbot chart explanation says you may want to push more often if the blinds are about to hit you. eg, my M is 5.5, will be about 4.5 in three hands.

Re: A8o EP low M
 

mhmmm....where can I find this pushbot chart everybody is talking about?

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I fold, and im grumpy about it too.

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loaded them up on rapidshare

pushbot charts

Re: A8o EP low M
 

I fold this one,live does play tighter than online,so that has to be a factor,ie their callingranges will be pretty tight.Think the stacksizes on the table also comes into play here,but no matter what,to me at least A8o is too weak a hand to push with here.

Also,since live is pretty tight,you can probably push virtually atc next time you are in position and it has been folded around.