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MikeMcQ1 09-19-2007 04:51 PM

(78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
No reads.
Should I raise the river? and how much?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1530)
UTG+1 (t1440)
CO (t1490)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1440)
BB (t1630)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t95</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t75, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>

Flop: (t240) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t185</font>, UTG calls t185

Turn: (t610) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t610) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t100</font>, Hero...

Sparta45 09-19-2007 05:06 PM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
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Should I raise the river? and how much?

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I don't understand? Nobody to act behind you and with the nuts, why would you not raise the river?

I'd probably raise about 450 more, so 550 total. His river bet seems weak, but you might get paid off. I don't think you would get called for much more.

bogey1 09-19-2007 05:09 PM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
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Should I raise the river? and how much?

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I don't understand? Nobody to act behind you and with the nuts, why would you not raise the river?


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It's not the nuts. 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] cards beat him.

I'm a wuss, but I just call or micro raise. I really don't want to be in the position of him shoving at me.

And, geez, with 7000 games under your belt, I'm amazed you're still posting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I swear, you were at every table I was last night and sucked on me twice to kill/cripple me on the bubble...

suzzer99 09-19-2007 05:25 PM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
I think I just call and kick the dog when he shows Ks.

donkeykong2 09-19-2007 05:30 PM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
i d make a small raise.

AMT 09-19-2007 07:41 PM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
there are two 4 straight flush spades that beat him, folks.

and id raise the river, the way the hand played out this can be a really weak value bet with the K or Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or simply a cheap bluff on a dangerous board a lot of the time IMO. I think he calls a raise enough times that flat calling on the end loses some value but raising big isnt worth it.

reno expat 09-19-2007 07:55 PM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
make a small raise, fold to jam. he's not going to 3-bet you without the straight flush, but will pay you off with a ton of smaller flushes.

Sparta45 09-20-2007 09:01 AM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
Ah....my bad. Can't believe I didn't see the SF out there.

I'd probably still raise the river for value. Seems like you have him beat. I wouldn't raise a lot though. Fold to a 3-bet.

Pudge714 09-20-2007 09:24 AM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
Raise t300 fold to a shove.
I don't like cbetting on this flop.

Jbrochu 09-20-2007 09:32 AM

Re: (78) Ace-high flush, Str8 flush worries?
 
I don't know how the typical unknown in a $78 plays, but you should pretty much be able to rule out the 6s. The only way I could see him having the 6s here is if he has pocket 6's and he sure played the flop strange if he has that hand.

I guess he could have pocket J's or a poorly played AJ with the Js but his UTG limp doesn't make too much sense with either hand.

Maybe KJs is the only hand that makes sense on all streets. [Edit: QJs as well]

In any case if I have an Ace high flush on an unpaired board against an unknown I'm trying to get all the chips in. I would raise to 600 and call a shove.


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