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Afro_Love 09-19-2007 04:03 PM

Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
I'm starting to think I call to many raises thinking they are bluffs. But on the other hand, every continuation bet I make seems to be getting raised. Could someone please point out the very stupid mistakes I made in these hands?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($12.60)
UTG ($24.90)
Hero ($25.50)
CO ($23.25)
Button ($39.85)
SB ($33.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, CO calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24.25</font>, CO calls $16 (All-In).

Turn: ($47.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($47.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $47.10



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($5.45)
Hero ($15.50)
MP ($29.70)
Button ($4.50)
SB ($30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, BB calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, BB calls $2.70 (All-In).

River: ($11) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $11


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($13.60)
UTG ($24.85)
Hero ($28.35)
CO ($23.25)
Button ($36.05)
SB ($32.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $7.10



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($29.25)
Hero ($28.05)
MP ($24.30)
Button ($35.55)
SB ($25.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.45</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2.45.

Flop: ($7.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4.3</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $7.15


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($8.85)
Hero ($25.40)
MP ($52.55)
Button ($9.40)
SB ($21.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, MP folds, Button calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5.9</font>, Hero calls $1.90.

River: ($20.15) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $20.15






PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($10.65)
Button ($24.25)
Hero ($26)
BB ($19)
UTG ($13.65)
MP ($21.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($7.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($7.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $15.25</font>, Hero calls $10.25.

Final Pot: $38

avisco01 09-19-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
I don't think I get it.

Perk76 09-19-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
Quick glance and thoughts considering no reads etc.
1. Very bad, definately give up on this hand earlier.
2. Standard
3. Standard as played. But dont raise 10Js from EP when not running well/or have control of tables.
4. Fold to 3bet preflop
5. C/F turn unless btn is a moron.
6. Yuck, this is very villan dependent especially since its BvB, but I tend to c/c the river alot here. As played, its hard to fold here.

wslee00 09-19-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
hand 1: i find 25NL players usually don't raise on a semi-bluff, so just lay it down if they raise you.

hand 2 &amp; 3: nothing you can do

hand 4: what's your question there? I call pf and fold flop like you did

hand 5: nothing you can do

hand 6: rr flop. shut down if called

C4LL4W4Y 09-19-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
1: don't even cbet, multiway here you will get looked up
2: standard
3: again, with 3 players in the pot and that board, don't cbet
4: raising QJs utg 5-handed is a leak if you play spewy postflop, which it seems that you do. but god, don't call a 3bet, even if you have position.
5: 9Ts at these stakes is no good from this spot for the above reason.
6: calling the flop raise is pretty thin, but continuing after doing so is catastrophic.

edit: didn't see you hit your Q in 6...getting it in here is villain dependent.

wslee00 09-19-2007 04:16 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
[ QUOTE ]
1: don't even cbet, multiway here you will get looked up
2: standard
3: again, with 3 players in the pot and that board, don't cbet
4: raising QJs utg 5-handed is a leak if you play spewy postflop, which it seems that you do. but god, don't call a 3bet, even if you have position.
5: 9Ts at these stakes is no good from this spot for the above reason.
6: calling the flop raise is pretty thin, but continuing after doing so is catastrophic.

[/ QUOTE ]
hand 1 wasn't multi-way
hand 3 i didn't see it was multi-way - yeah - just check it through

AFCBeer 09-19-2007 04:16 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
Some of these hands look very tilty and some look like BBV. You will always get sessions like this when you constantly get played back at. If you can't handle it then perhaps poker is not for you.

I suspect most of the time the villains kept hitting hands against you. That happens sometimes and you need to deal with it or quit. If you think villains are making moves and outplaying you, forget about you ego and find a softer table. The worse thing to do is continuing to play and spew more $$

danny8 09-19-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
1: fold to the flop raise

2: obv standard

3: i wouldnt bother cbetting this 3way but whatever doesnt matter that much

4: fold to the 3bet pf

5: shove turns fine

6: fold to the flop raise

general: you seem too call stationy.. stop calling/raising so much when you have nothing. play a little more abc standard and stop trying to always outplay everyone. just play solid poker, value betting your good hands and folding when people tell you your beat. doesnt mean dont cbet, or never 3bet light or double barrel.. just pick your spots carefully.

Afro_Love 09-19-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
Yes, I see what you mean.

Hand #1 was the last hand I played before I stopped, I was kind of tilting there because I missed every flop and wasn't even able to pick on up without hitting.

Hand #6 he showed 78. Was my second hand at the table.

C4LL4W4Y 09-19-2007 04:43 PM

Re: Help, I had a terrible session. [25NL]
 
good point, for some reason i thought UTG limp called.


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