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MYPIRAHNAS_DO 09-19-2007 11:47 AM

2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
2/5 playing loose, effective stacks $750, Hero is UTG+1, Villain CO.

Hero sat short, $300, drinking a beer and professedly "killing time." Villain has $8K, an older gentleman, not drinking.

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG folds, Hero raises to $15, MP1 call, Villain jacks it to $45, Hero thinks for 30s, calls. MP1 folds.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero checks, Villain checks behind.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero checks, Villain shoves (!), hero debates.....

Thoughts? I'll post the rest of the hand after discussion.

Thanks

DeeJ 09-19-2007 11:51 AM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
Preflop - Hero should think for about 5 seconds and push a pot-committing amount of about $150-$200.

As played preflop, you got to push that flop becuz it sucks if a J,Q,K comes off on the turn.

err, then it happens and you have a big problemmo

MYPIRAHNAS_DO 09-19-2007 11:58 AM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
Postflop - is Hero checking the flop with the intention of c/r here, or giving a free card and the opportunity for Villain to bluff at it? Although, Hero is strongly leaning towards putting Villain on AK.

DeeJ 09-19-2007 12:00 PM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
KT9 is a draw heavy flop - I would not check it.

MYPIRAHNAS_DO 09-19-2007 12:01 PM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
My other question for your line is - do I want to force a fold preflop with a pot-committing bet like you suggest, or do I expect him to come over the top? Villain has not done anything out of line yet, so I suppose a bet such as you suggest will push him off his hand, and I'd like to double through him....his stack size suggests that Villain is ready for action.

Janis N. 09-19-2007 12:14 PM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
I don't mind a flop c/r. Now fold. If he does it with less than Kx then friggin good for him, stack him later.

BobboFitos 09-19-2007 12:40 PM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
looks like TT to me

edit: but id call anyway, you started with 300 and put 1/6th of it in pf, oh well! pay the man his money.

Praetor 09-19-2007 12:58 PM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
i call, rest is fine too

FireStorm 09-19-2007 01:12 PM

Re: 2/5 Borgata, 3 wrong decisions?
 
4 bet preflop, or, attempt a limp raise if this is a full table. Or, open raise to more than 3xBB. Do one of these, and the hand becomes easier on future streets. As played, you can probably fold, as this is Kx or better a lot of the time.


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