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MichaelB 09-19-2007 11:17 AM

200NL QQ
 
Fire on turn?? Call river? halp compudah

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $195.00
BB: $375.75
UTG: $200.90
Hero (CO): $249.45
BTN: $199.10

Reads: <font color="blue">villain is 41/12/1.75 over 80 hands</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $7.00, UTG calls $7.00

Flop: ($28) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $24.00

Turn: ($108) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($108) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $40.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $40.00 returned to UTG

Pot Size: $108.00 ($3 Rake)

oli1980 09-19-2007 11:25 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
turn check behind is good.
definately don't fold river. I would put him on 66 / 88 / TT

Tito 09-19-2007 11:26 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
I would bet about $70 on the turn and fold to a push. I don't think you played it bad but as played I would have to call river and make a note. I think his range is way too wide here for a fold.

The Don 09-19-2007 11:27 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
Wow I'm lost on this one. I don't really see what you beat that bets but I also don't see what flats a flop raise and beats us other than 99 which seems unlikely. I call river out of curiosity/hoping he is bluffing the ace or a missed straight draw or something.

oli1980 09-19-2007 11:27 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
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I would bet about $70 on the turn and fold to a push. I don't think you played it bad but as played I would have to call river and make a note. I think his range is way too wide here for a fold.

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So you make your hand a bluff?

darnold305 09-19-2007 11:31 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
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I call river out of curiosity/hoping he is bluffing the ace or a missed straight draw or something.

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shpanko 09-19-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
TUrn check is good, the river is closer to a shove than a fold. I think I just call though.

oli1980 09-19-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
I am not a good player. But i don't see a point in betting the turn. The only better hand that might fold there is KK but it is highly unlikey that he has this specific hand. So instead of bet folding we check behind in order to see a river and also induce a bluff for a weaker hand like 66 / 88 / TT which would have foldet to the suggested bet / fold turn. If you compare the b / f with the cbehind call river you will see that against a range of hands the cbehind is the one with the higher ev for us.
Just my thoughts

Foxisquick 09-19-2007 11:33 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
This hand was played great. Just call. great odds to call and you hae so much stuff in his range crushed.

capodu 09-19-2007 11:39 AM

Re: 200NL QQ
 
checking the turn is good and calling&gt;shove&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fold


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