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$upermad4it 09-17-2007 04:55 PM

KK vs flush?
 
Seat 1: Merc300CE24 ( $412.16)
Seat 2: garip888 ( $722.67)
Seat 3: mad4it109 ( $969.20)
Seat 4: SilentJealousy ( $406.50)
Seat 5: Tekniks_SD ( $636.37)
Seat 6: Jeppedusen ( $390.20)
Jeppedusen posts small blind (2)
Merc300CE24 posts big blind (4)
** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to mad4it109 [ Kh, Kd ]
garip888 calls (4)
mad4it109 raises (24) to 24
SilentJealousy folds.
Tekniks_SD folds.
Jeppedusen folds.
Merc300CE24 folds.
garip888 calls (20)

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 5d, 4s ]
garip888 checks.
mad4it109 bets (40)
garip888 calls (40)

** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
garip888 checks.
mad4it109 bets (92)
garip888 raises (184) to 184
mad4it109 calls (92)

** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
garip888 bets (474.67)
hero?


Sorry about lack of converter - it didn't work on this hand for some reason.
Hero's table stats were 28/23/7 and I'd been running over everyone. Villians stats were 53/8/2.4
Villian is donkish.

I thought this was a close call between donk taking a stand against me anda flush here. I figured with 2.4 aggro villian raises the flop a lot and he is merely trying to represent the flush on the turn once it gets there. What do you think?

aislephive 09-17-2007 05:01 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
I'd fold turn pretty quickly against this guy, you're smoked here a ton. The river is a definite fold without a pretty good read that he takes this line with air.

Turn bet is good though of course, but without a spade you really need to dump this to a raise.

Praetor 09-17-2007 05:04 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
i would fold the turn

pureklas 09-17-2007 05:10 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
Can you explain why betting the turn is good? See normally i'd check for pot control with the flush, straight and possibility of a set out there and to induce a bluff if ahead. So if you could please correct my thinking.

Praetor 09-17-2007 05:13 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
for value against this donk

$upermad4it 09-17-2007 05:18 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
this villian will call to the river with A7

DrMagic 09-17-2007 05:18 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
Fold river please

$upermad4it 09-17-2007 05:42 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
meh I must have been tilting to have even considered it. I guess its a bluff maybe 20% of the time

FireStorm 09-17-2007 05:50 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
Fold 100000000% of the time. He min CR'ed you on the turn, and shoved the river for around the pot size. You have a one pair hand and beat nothing but air.

stackingboxes 09-17-2007 06:51 PM

Re: KK vs flush?
 
lol u'r table stats aren't u'r normal stats..far from it i think. but it doesn't matter too much here.

fold


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