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mortimo 09-17-2007 03:17 PM

$12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
Villian is a decent reg with a 8% roi over 1700 hands at this level. He understands the push/fold-strategi well, but how wide should a reg push against an another reg here? I push about any 2 here in sb myself, but maybe too wild? He dosn`t know that I do this yet, because we have played only a few hands against each other so far.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Button: t6610
SB: t2950
Hero: t3940

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t2950</font>, Hero calls t2650 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t3250)</font>.

J-P 09-17-2007 03:25 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
It's a standard sngpt question. Breakeven point is if he is pushing 72%.

mortimo 09-17-2007 03:47 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
I know that, but from experience, will they play optimally?
I think about set-ups for later hands. They will probably open up their calling-ranges if I call, but at the same time tighten up a little in SB, I think.
Do you think they will adjust their ranges enough at this level?

KCW12 09-17-2007 05:47 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
I would fold this. His pushing range may be wide, but most of it still includes hands that are ahead of you. If you call this, your best hope is that he has something like A6o or a low pocket pair. More often, he will have two overs or have you dominated, and you're in trouble. I just can't see you ever being ahead here.

mortimo 09-17-2007 06:23 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
Against my calling-range he should probably not push any 2, but not far from it. Against a player with a tight range, it`s profitable for sb to push any 2 according to SNGwiz..So I think it`s close.

Scotty_12 09-17-2007 09:10 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
I hate this call, you have Ten high and are behind to alot of [censored] hands that he is pushing, you also have like 13 bbs and there is a chance in the 12s that these guys are not playing optimally which means you can exploit them and find spots far more +EV to get your money in

mortimo 09-17-2007 09:32 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
Okay, I see. I didn`t take future-hands in consideration.
I actually modified a little..I had K8o in the hand. This is a call, right?

pauliewalnuts 09-17-2007 09:46 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Okay, I see. I didn`t take future-hands in consideration.
I actually modified a little..I had K8o in the hand. This is a call, right?

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I definitely fold T9s and I fold K8 as well. Give him 2k instead of 3k though and then it is different. These are tough spots though. SNGPT has the breakeven point at 52%. If he is a solid pushbotter, he probably is pushing at least that wide here. Honestly I dont know whats best here.

Scotty_12 09-17-2007 11:32 PM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
Blinds arent high enough to make me want to call with K8o yet. Maybe A6+ 66+ and KQ if im feeling super spitey, but probably still not even that wide, I think my edge can be bigger b y waiting

mortimo 09-18-2007 01:06 AM

Re: $12 3-way 109s Call this push?
 
Looks like I have a lot to learn here..Thanks for replies!
I will tighten up in the future


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