holla? or not?
 

Villain is complete unknown, my 6th hand at the table.
pot is 450ish on river

Full Tilt Poker Game #3590592375: Table Cole (deep 6) - $4/$8 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:23:27 ET - 2007/09/17
Seat 1: pez_vela ($1,588)
Seat 3: Yawning Boy ($1,673)
Seat 4: quotient99 ($861.50)
Seat 5: wuleq ($1,600), is sitting out
Seat 6: luckbox ($1,897.70)
luckbox posts the small blind of $4
pez_vela posts the big blind of $8
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pez_vela [9h Kc]
Yawning Boy folds
quotient99 folds
luckbox raises to $24
pez_vela raises to $82
luckbox calls $58
*** FLOP *** [Th Td As]
luckbox checks
pez_vela bets $124
luckbox calls $124
*** TURN *** [Th Td As] [6h]
luckbox checks
pez_vela checks
*** RIVER *** [Th Td As 6h] [4h]
luckbox checks
pez_vela bets $760

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I don't like preflop. I'd rather double barrel vs your postflop line.

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what greg said.

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Wow this is so bad, I hope he realizes a check on turn is for pot control and doesnt call this -ev move.

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Dont like preflop with these stacks. And he is definitely calling river with any ace. Meh, find better spots to bluff.

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Wow this is so bad, I hope he realizes a check on turn is for pot control and doesnt call this -ev move.

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He'd be wrong to think this, right?

Isn't it really hard for villain to call this huge overbet with just an A here?

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Dont like preflop with these stacks. And he is definitely calling river with any ace. Meh, find better spots to bluff.

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actually, preflop is +EV in isolation and very +EV for meta precisely because of these stack sizes. there are other reasons preflop could be bad, but it is certainly not because of stack size.

double barreling is way way way better b/c you can actually get him to muck an ace, whereas here you're usually bluffing or have the nuts, and when your range is stratified like that it's easy to just close your eyes and look you up.

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I hate the idea of overbetting, which transforms our range into a BDFD or 44 or bluff (without other reads), when villain's line/holdings appear(s) weak. If villain is good he will think about this and call.

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Dont like preflop with these stacks. And he is definitely calling river with any ace. Meh, find better spots to bluff.

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actually, preflop is +EV in isolation and very +EV for meta precisely because of these stack sizes. there are other reasons preflop could be bad, but it is certainly not because of stack size.

double barreling is way way way better b/c you can actually get him to muck an ace, whereas here you're usually bluffing or have the nuts, and when your range is stratified like that it's easy to just close your eyes and look you up.

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theres no way i could say that better

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Better hope this isn't AhXh. FWIW this isn't great.