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YanMTL 09-16-2007 11:58 PM

Can i get more with this hand?
 
This is the way i always play that type of hand. I always donk the flop because i want action on the flop and i want to get something from the limper if possible. With a C/R, i'm pretty sure i would get nothing. But with a small flush, i check/raise to make a hand like 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] fold if i called preflop with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] but here, since they need the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to hurt me, i want action but without losing clients and i want a smaller flush draw to chase of course.

here the hand.

Ultimate Bet 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold</font>, CO raises</font>, 2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>, CO raises</font>, Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Of course i hope he had the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] after the turn.

I think everything is fine but just wonder. Of course, i also donk the flod with draws, set, two pairs and i also check-raise a lot, trying to mixe it about 50-50. But i always beleived that with 3 color on the board, people chase more with draw so i always bet that kind of monster here.

SuperWhale 09-17-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Can i get more with this hand?
 
As long as you donk the flop with non-nut hands i think this is fine. I wouldn't worry too much how to play your straight flushes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

SuperUberBob 09-17-2007 12:09 AM

Re: Can i get more with this hand?
 
I like the way you played it, especially if villain would be unable to get away from any flush hand.

YanMTL 09-17-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Can i get more with this hand?
 
[ QUOTE ]
As long as you donk the flop with non-nut hands i think this is fine. I wouldn't worry too much how to play your straight flushes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

[/ QUOTE ]

the straight flush has nothing to do with the rest of the hand. I would play a set on a dry board exactly the same way. I was just thinking if there is another way to have our monster paid even more. Here i know that with a 4 flush on the board, it is hard to get paid if he doesn't have the Kd but i can't think that just calling the turn raise to try the check-raise on the river is a good play.

SuperWhale 09-17-2007 12:23 AM

Re: Can i get more with this hand?
 
My point (hidden in the joke) was that I don't think you are not going to get any more bets playing differently. In fact I would rather raise the turn for the times he does have the K of diamonds, where you will get a lot of action. He would likely either not bet river or not call a river check raise if he folded the turn.

hustalasta 09-17-2007 11:11 AM

Re: Can i get more with this hand?
 
Sets and two pairs might play similarly. 3-bet that monster with only one opponent. A few more opponents and you might think about getting tricky. Otherwise bet that Bitch.


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