NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

Villain is unknown.

Shove or fold?? I think call here is weak..

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $23.82
BB: $15.37
UTG: $32.10
MP: $34.63
CO: $22.76
Hero (BTN): $25.41

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $2.00</font>, Hero calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero??

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

my wager here is that you are up against KK or AA (min raise preflop, anyone?) I don't really think our FE here is that great b/c of the min raise and then the flop bet. This also means that if we just call, he most likely leads out a blank turn. i think the min raise, and me being weak tight makes me fold here.

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

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my wager here is that you are up against KK or AA (min raise preflop, anyone?)

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OR

It could be the BB defending a weak A or KQ?
The minraise before the flop dosnt scare me at all due to the positional situation.

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

against QQ+ I'm 40:60 so it could be a + EV shove.

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

It could be the BB defending a weak A or KQ?

do these hands really cbet the flop?

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

32% chance to hit our straight (although there is a reasonable chance he is holding at least 1 Q).

20% chance of hitting a J or T.

You're basically a coin flip vs an over pair.

I would mix it up. Probably about 50% calls, 50% raises to $9.

I'm definitely not folding on the flop though.

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

i would love to get my money in there

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

I wouldn't shove it yet, just raise 'em up on flop, make it 9-10$ish.

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

against a 15$ stack i get it in on the flop

BB only has 10$ left, and so its pushing 13 into a 30$ pot. 43% of the pot, against KK/AA you're 44%. the number of times he's reraised Ak and is cbetting any flop make this a good push for me

Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?
 

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I wouldn't shove it yet, just raise 'em up on flop, make it 9-10$ish.

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Look at stack sizes. Making it 13 would put villian all-in.


Shove here is good and the only way to play it IMO.