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HedonismBot 09-16-2007 07:06 PM

How do you like
 
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Hero ($1000)
Button ($384)
SB ($666.50)
BB ($344)
UTG ($1123)
MP ($201.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $30.

Flop: ($125) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $100</font>, Hero calls $100, BB folds.

Turn: ($325) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $360</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $625

Colombo 09-16-2007 07:08 PM

Re: How do you like
 
If you're gonna play like this preflop, I don't understand why you aren't raising the flop.

Praetor 09-16-2007 07:10 PM

Re: How do you like
 
why would you raise the flop

Slap My Jack 09-16-2007 07:12 PM

Re: How do you like
 
No reads?

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If you're gonna play like this preflop, I don't understand why you aren't raising the flop.

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Raising a dry multiway flop. Playing it this way can get villain to fire on multiple streets, and he could be doing it with air as well by putting us on a float with a pair, where if we raise he's likely folding a good portion of what we beat.


Also, does anyone think the turnbetsizing looks weak enough here that it might induce a weak bluff? We're basically getting mincheckraised here. I think you cut down on this by betting more like 2/3, and it's also worth doing for value and protection against backdoor draws.

I fold without a read here.

homeboy604 09-16-2007 07:12 PM

Re: How do you like
 
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why would you raise the flop

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because you're probably ahead and want to get money in the pot?
turn is fold.

Slap My Jack 09-16-2007 07:21 PM

Re: How do you like
 
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why would you raise the flop

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because you're probably ahead and want to get money in the pot?
turn is fold.

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Hero ($1000)
Button ($384)
SB ($666.50)
BB ($344)
Villain ($1123)
MP ($201.50)

Preflop: Villain is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Villain raises to $40, 1 fold, Hero calls $40, 2 folds, BB calls $30.

Flop: ($125) 5, 9, K (3 players)
BB checks, Villain bets $100, Hero raises $300, BB folds, Villain ???


This is the best situation you can hope for, but do you think you're getting much more money from him here? Are you calling the flop raise against a TAG with position? If you do call it, are you calling the turn unimproved?

Colombo 09-16-2007 07:35 PM

Re: How do you like
 
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why would you raise the flop

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For value. Villain prob doesn't fold JJ here, nevermind Kx.

Jinx 09-16-2007 07:46 PM

Re: How do you like
 
reads would be nice. I prob check the turn.

JooWish622 09-16-2007 08:58 PM

Re: How do you like
 
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why would you raise the flop

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For value. Villain prob doesn't fold JJ here, nevermind Kx.

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nope

Parlay Slow 09-16-2007 09:18 PM

Re: How do you like
 
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why would you raise the flop

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For value. Villain prob doesn't fold JJ here, nevermind Kx.

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nope

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I also agree with Colombo


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