109 DeepStack: Passive TPTK 3-way
 

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t5344)
UTG (t7715)
UTG+1 (t11260)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t7936)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t4645)</font>
CO (t7860)
Button (t7045)
SB (t14430)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t300, MP2 calls t300, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1050) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t700</font>, UTG+1 calls t700, Hero calls t700.


Do I need to raise here? UTG+1 has been ABC my image should be about the same. MP2 has been more spewy and people tend to go nuts in these when they're M begins to drop (which is dumb obv).

Plan was to C/R AI vs MP2 if UTG+1 folded (standard?), but against an EP raiser this deep on this board I decided my first goal should be to just get closer to showdown as cheaply as possible.

If you agree thus far, what's the turn plan?

Re: 109 DeepStack: Passive TPTK 3-way
 

I think you have to make a decision on the flop.

If you are already beaten by AA,KK,AK and you plan to get to a showdown it won't be cheap, but will cost all of your chips -

after the flop pot is 3150 - turn bet will be around 2000-2500, pot on the river will be at least 7150 (if one of the two villains fold) and you will have 5000 left.

So the simple question is - is your ace good here?

I don't think so - an UTG raise followed by a check/call on this board is very likely a slowpalayed monster, so I would fold on the flop (against an ABC-player i migh have folded preflop).

Re: 109 DeepStack: Passive TPTK 3-way
 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t5344)
UTG (t7715)
UTG+1 (t11260)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t7936)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t4645)</font>
CO (t7860)
Button (t7045)
SB (t14430)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t300, MP2 calls t300, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1050) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t700</font>, UTG+1 calls t700, Hero calls t700.


Do I need to raise here? UTG+1 has been ABC my image should be about the same. MP2 has been more spewy and people tend to go nuts in these when they're M begins to drop (which is dumb obv).

Plan was to C/R AI vs MP2 if UTG+1 folded (standard?), but against an EP raiser this deep on this board I decided my first goal should be to just get closer to showdown as cheaply as possible.

If you agree thus far, what's the turn plan?

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What range to do u give to UTG+1 here...if he's been playing ABC he should love/hate this flop right? His c/c seems kinda weird...???