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Nogatsira 09-15-2007 08:41 PM

NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
Villain is 18/10/4 over 60 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($15.80)
BB ($15.40)
UTG ($6.10)
Hero ($11.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.40, UTG calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.2</font>, UTG calls $1.20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13.8</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $6.25 (All-In).





How did I play this hand?
Villain seemed a solid tag, should we consider he plays set alot like this due to the drawheavy board and the entire stack that he'd like to get in?
What range do we put him on?

wslee00 09-15-2007 09:05 PM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
the only hand you really beat is TT unless he is doing this w/ a combo draw of 8cTc or something like that, although that is unlikely since he called a pf raise.

I can definitely see a fold after BB 3-bets you.

Jw513 09-15-2007 09:06 PM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
Range seems to be a set or Flush draw + 2 overs. Either way, you're behind probably.

Keitan 09-15-2007 09:13 PM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
Your behind.. I make the raise to 3.7 so you save a few pesos if you have to fold to the 3bet... I think it has the same effect.

Edit: Nevermind.. I didn't see UTG called.. 4.5 is better

Nogatsira 09-15-2007 09:19 PM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
His range could be 44,77,99,TT,JJ,QQ (I guess KK and AA would have reraised pre), AcKc, 8cTc.
Is that a correct range to put him on?

If that is his pushing range then he's 63% favorite to win, so then I'd have to call right?

If you leave out the 99+ though then I don't have the odds to call the shove.. So will this still be a fold to the shove or will villain shove enough with 99+ here too?

Keitan 09-15-2007 09:30 PM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
I would take out TT+ from his range. You're getting 4-1 but not enough equity imo.

huhwhatyousay? 09-15-2007 09:56 PM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
His range is something on the order of {99,77,44,AcJc,KcQc,QcJc,JcTc} imo. I don't think a solid TAG will play TT+ like this too often. He probably never has QQ-TT, and has &lt; 0.75 combos of AA-KK each. You around 22% equity to call, and you're getting 12%-20% equity when his range is comprised of 9%-28% draws and the rest sets (respectively). Fold.

Esmerelda 09-16-2007 03:52 AM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
QQ-AA seem pretty unlikely from the preflop. So do the suited connectors like 10c8c etc. So I would say 77, 99 and and big clubs (AKs-A10s, KQs etc) make up the bulk of his range.

The broadway clubs are pretty likely here and you are getting better than 3-1. My gut says you have the odds to call but not by very much.

mookboi 09-16-2007 04:11 AM

Re: NL10: Jacks in trouble? Overpair in multiway pot
 
I dunno man, it's 10NL, I go with it.


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