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hamnegger 09-15-2007 06:38 AM

am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t1480)
BB (t1320)
UTG (t1510)
UTG+1 (t1670)
Hero (t1600)
MP2 (t1570)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1390)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t60</font>, Hero calls t60, MP2 calls t60, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t250) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t260</font>, Hero folds,

usha 09-15-2007 06:43 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
What are the stakes?

I think I shove over.
Villain almost never has QQ+ or a set here IMO.

hamnegger 09-15-2007 06:58 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
$5 buy in 9pm nightly

usha 09-15-2007 07:22 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
Why did you fold?

CorvusMonedula 09-15-2007 07:33 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
At these stakes UTG +1 has a very large range, most of which you are crushing, I'd push. If I'm wrong tough.

levAA 09-15-2007 08:08 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
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Villain almost never has QQ+ or a set here IMO.

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I don't understand why you exclude this from villains range!?

I think for exactly these holdings his play is reasonable.

If we set his preflop raising range from early position to 88+,AJ+,KQ and he bets after the flop into 3 opponents we can devide it into two parts:

1.) We beat: TT

2.) We are beaten by: 88,99,QQ,KK,AA

(3.) we can pretty much exclude: AQ,AK,KQ - as the bet size is too large for a c-bet and betting into 3 opponents isn't really reasonable without a hand)

So I would say this is a fold unless I have some read, that his preflop range is wider than that.

usha 09-15-2007 08:22 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
This is early in the trny, and its a 5$. UTG+1 range is any PP, IMO.
88-99 is never overbetting this flop like that in these stakes and QQ+ doesn't make sense either.

I think this is a bet that doesn't want to get called.

chaosprofessor 09-15-2007 09:06 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
imho utg+1 cant raise with small PP.
Villain has TT at least, and this is the only one, which is good for U.
on the other hand this is not a probe or C-bet, he want to finish here. if he has set, this would be foolish play. QQ-AA could have fear the draw, like JT.
this play is best for TT, i think this is, what he had.

levAA 09-15-2007 09:18 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
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88-99 is never overbetting this flop like

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this is a usual pot-size bet on the flop into 3 opponents - exactly what I would do if i play a set or QQ+

usha 09-15-2007 09:30 AM

Re: am i playing too tight? 1st level
 
why would you put a PSB on this flop with a set?


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