A8s flops top pair on a scary board in a 3way pot.
 

MP is around 60/30, SB is unknown.
Comments on all streets plz.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

River: (14 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP folds.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Re: A8s flops top pair on a scary board in a 3way pot.
 

Turn is a fold. Altho a tough one to make against an unknown

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turn is an easy fold in my book.

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turn is an easy fold in my book.

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Not saying folding is wrong, but getting these odds how can it be easy?

Re: A8s flops top pair on a scary board in a 3way pot.
 

If sb has been sitting long enough to know that mp is maniacal, how can we really fold this?

Re: A8s flops top pair on a scary board in a 3way pot.
 

what range do you put SB on?

Re: A8s flops top pair on a scary board in a 3way pot.
 

Not sure, but in order to play it the way he did, let's say A x, x being anything, any two broadways, and I guess that's it.

Still might be a muck, but our outs might be clean on the turn and we could have up to 5 and maybe the best hand. I've seen pretty interesting plays from unknowns especially when they see someone raising 30 percent of hands, even for 3 bets.

Granted the c/r on the turn shows a lot of strength.

Re: A8s flops top pair on a scary board in a 3way pot.
 

seems like a pretty easy fold to me. i put him on AQ AT A3 TT KJ QT. you're crushed

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turn is an easy fold in my book.

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Not saying folding is wrong, but getting these odds how can it be easy?

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it's easy for me because i'm weak-tight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but seriously, sb has to be a maniac too to attempt this with a worse hand agaisnt 2 players, one of whom is loose, after we showed this much strength.

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turn is an easy fold in my book.

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I agree totaly with the fold on the turn. Sorry but we are talking about 2$/4$ game here.

I think the range of the SB is AQ, AT, KJ, TT and maybe QT. Nothing else unless he's a world class spewer at this limit.

We raise preflop so a AQT flop have to hit us pretty hard. We confirm that on the flop by raising a guy that is willing to donk into a preflop raiser and a 3better with that flop. This is only one thing for sure, his hand must be strong or he will only call for the rest of the hand.

Now with the best relative position to the flop raiser, he just call the raise and c/r the turn. He has a monster so A8 is already drawing dead.

I was maybe weak tight when i was playing 2$/4$ but with the action here, i would just have called the bet on the flop and fold the turn and take a note if the hand go to showdown. I'm not willing to put 2 more big bet with only pair of aces and bad kicker with two opponents with all the action preflop.