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ThePlan 09-13-2007 06:24 PM

River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
Villain is essentially unknown, seems loose though. I would usually cbet the flop for $14, not really sure why I didn't.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($283.15)
BB ($119.65)
UTG ($98.70)
Hero ($219.30)
Button ($288.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($41) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($41) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>

CennyCripple 09-13-2007 06:27 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
Looks good IMO. Wouldn't like it against a pretty good player since he needs to call it because he gives you the option to bluff him.

BPMaR 09-13-2007 06:31 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
Ok, Ill rather take the humiliation right now, rather than be ignorant the rest of my life.
What does spew mean in poker slang, as you used it?
I googled it but it said, to vomit, when volcano erupts or cast out forcefully

goofyballer 09-13-2007 06:51 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
I like. I might go slightly higher, to $67-$70 cause it feels scarier and you're still getting good odds, but that's a good turn and river for you to do that.

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Ok, Ill rather take the humiliation right now, rather than be ignorant the rest of my life.
What does spew mean in poker slang, as you used it?
I googled it but it said, to vomit, when volcano erupts or cast out forcefully

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It's the same thing in poker: when you're uncontrollably vomiting up chips to someone at the other end of the table; a.k.a., losing money unnecessarily, either by making a bad call, or a dumb raise, or something like that.

Nick Royale 09-13-2007 06:58 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
Betting 12 on the flop is better than betting 14.

I'll proibably fire a 2nd barrel, and possibly even a 3rd.

Given the turn check I'll give it up most often on the river, I think a loose player is likely to convince himself to call too often. If I raise I'd make it slightly bigger.

wdead 09-13-2007 07:48 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
WTF is the difference between betting 12 and 14 on the flop.

Sometimes this is weak ok Ill make some retarded block but its also hmmm ill bet small and he will raise and i will call with 4th pair. I think the block is more likely.

rakes.a.beach 09-13-2007 07:48 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
I like the river bluff though a 2nd barrel would be good too.

To spew means to loosely throw away chips.

wdead 09-13-2007 07:50 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
If you fire a 2nd barrel i think you need to 3b cuz villains will call two streets with 77 etc in this spot, but not the third. If you DO fire a second barrel I think it helps to bet more on the flop so you can bomb the turn and bluff shove the river, but usually I would just give up.

aislephive 09-13-2007 08:24 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
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WTF is the difference between betting 12 and 14 on the flop.


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$14 &gt; $12.

wdead 09-13-2007 08:32 PM

Re: River bluff raise ... spew or not?
 
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WTF is the difference between betting 12 and 14 on the flop.


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$14 &gt; $12.

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why does this matter? what does a 14 dollar bet accomplish that a 12 doesnt or vice versa


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