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loosbastard 09-13-2007 03:21 PM

Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
CO is like 38/21 over a smallish sample and is stealing 55% of the time. I've 3-bet him like twice before and he practically insta-folded each time. I meant to make it 13.5 pre...but I don't play Absolute much and [censored] it up. Not a big deal though. Cold-caller is completely unknown. He just sat down a few hands ago.

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($140.89)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($198.60)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($69.80)</font>
UTG ($163.85)
MP ($215.35)
CO ($114.72)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12.5</font>, BB calls $11.50, CO calls $8.50.

Flop: ($37.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero?

Ajahn 09-13-2007 03:24 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
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jono 09-13-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
aww een

edit: my mistake I thought hero had $70. I dont like betting effective $100 into $37 pot. Sometimes I bet $22-24, and take it from there. I dont mind a CRAI, less of the time c/c. Rarely c/f.

loosbastard 09-13-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
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Well I know that...but HOW do you like doing it? B/C or CRAI?

aislephive 09-13-2007 03:26 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
Not a bad spot to open shove the flop at all. I'd do this with overpairs on occasion as well. You could just bet right out, if I did I'd just bet $30 which should rep a big pair pretty well. Only problem is being called sucks since we're in no mans land on the turn when it bricks, that's why I like just shoving without knowing more about the players.

Ajahn 09-13-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
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Well I know that...but HOW do you like doing it?

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Humberto Brenes style.

loosbastard 09-13-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
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Humberto Brenes style.

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But what if I don't have a toy shark?

Jesse Kidd 09-13-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
$30 is good, and probably won't put you in a bad spot. BB is in the middle, and only has $50-some left at this point, so if he pushes, it will probably get CO out of the way.

You could also bet smaller so that you could reopen betting if you wanted to after BB moves AI.

Nick Royale 09-13-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
Open-shove. Ime opponents are more likely to push over a smaller bet on the flop than calling a push.

Crai commits him in a spot where you don't want him committed.

loosbastard 09-13-2007 03:45 PM

Re: Over/NFD in 3-bet pot that BB cold-called...wtf?
 
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$30 is good, and probably won't put you in a bad spot. BB is in the middle, and only has $50-some left at this point, so if he pushes, it will probably get CO out of the way.

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That's kind of what I was thinking.

For you guys saying open-shove...do you really do it that often w/ overpairs?. I mean in this spot it's a pretty massive over-bet.


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