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orange 09-13-2007 02:05 PM

AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
villan is a reg. he has weird stats (like 22/11). he's pretty aggro, i've seen him bluff 3 streets with AK UI. He seems like he has a brain though and doesn't seem TOO moronic. Hero is playing pretty fast and getting good cards at this table.

The only history I have vs. villan is when i first played him- i open JJ, he calls. flop comes 332, he donks for more than pot, i call. turn A he checks i check. river 6, he c/c-s my bet with 99 and mhig. (i misplayed but had no idea how he played and flop overbet confused me). however, we havent really played a tremendous amount of hands vs. each other since then.

anyways, do you check anywhere?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $83.20
UTG+1: $276.10
CO: $378
Button: $390.05
SB: $632.67
orange: $792.15

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $6</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $26</font>, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $68</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($142, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $90</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($322, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange ,,,

skibbel 09-13-2007 02:08 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
Q: Why did u give him the odds to call for setvalue preflop? Wouldn't a raise to 100$ be better?

SABR42 09-13-2007 02:11 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
4-bet to like $90.

As played, I don't mind checking this turn actually. If he checks river value bet obv.

I don't think you can stack QQ THIS deep, and you risk getting stacked by a set too much.

amoeba 09-13-2007 02:13 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
orange, how much do you want to play for here? because if you bet turn, you are playing for all 300bbs.

if you want to play for less (150bbs), then check the turn behind.

orange 09-13-2007 02:26 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
[ QUOTE ]
orange, how much do you want to play for here? because if you bet turn, you are playing for all 300bbs.

if you want to play for less (150bbs), then check the turn behind.

[/ QUOTE ]
i want to play for all 300bbs. but i'm wondering if there is more +EV in checking/betting the river? he can't really call with much any hand here (maybe KK right?)

amoeba 09-13-2007 02:31 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
I am not sure if hes going to stack off with QQ. maybe KK.

even if he has played with you lots, I'm pretty sure this is the first time hes seen you 4 bet preflop, fired flop, fired turn (should you choose to fire turn).

FGators 09-13-2007 02:33 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
Preflop: too small

Turn: $260; call push.

River: Jam if its non K/Q...puke if it is and he pushes.

kolotoure 09-13-2007 02:34 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
what is shoving turn that we beat?

amoeba 09-13-2007 02:35 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
[ QUOTE ]


River: Jam if its non K/Q...puke if it is and he pushes.

[/ QUOTE ]

why do you need to puke? its an easy fold.

goofyballer 09-13-2007 02:36 PM

Re: AA 4bet pot vs. reg (deep)
 
4bet size pre is gross given stacks.

Bet turn. Why? Because people hate folding.


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