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faarcyde 09-12-2007 10:24 PM

10NL Combo-draw facing stiff raise
 
Villain seems pretty solid. I haven't done anything maniacal really like four betting or pushing the flop like this. My thoughts: folding is okay, pushing is okay, calling is bad. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $10.50
BB: $23.05
UTG: $11.90
Hero (MP): $9.90
CO: $4.15
BTN: $18.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, CO calls $0.35, BTN folds, SB calls $0.30, BB folds

Flop: ($1.15) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.70</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $2.70</font>, <font color="red">Hero...

mookboi 09-12-2007 10:26 PM

Re: 10NL Combo-draw facing stiff raise
 
Why is folding OK and calling not? You got like 12 outs.

Personally, I push, gambool fun.

faarcyde 09-12-2007 10:28 PM

Re: 10NL Combo-draw facing stiff raise
 
Because if I call I have six behind, and if I brick on turn it puts me in a tough spot because any continuation bet on the turn puts me in a spot where I have to fold. If I push the flop I think I can fold out a lot of Ax hands and other draws.

members_only 09-12-2007 10:48 PM

Re: 10NL Combo-draw facing stiff raise
 
Folding isn't ok. Whether you shove or call depends on your estimation of your fold equity vs your implied odds, which in turn basically depends on what you think villain's check-raising range is. If in doubt, however, you should shove, because strong draws benefit from getting all the money in early (as you said, you won't be in a great spot if you call and the turn is a blank.) In other words shove unless you are sure villain is only c/r-ing here with very strong hands.

faarcyde 09-13-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 10NL Combo-draw facing stiff raise
 
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Folding isn't ok. Whether you shove or call depends on your estimation of your fold equity vs your implied odds, which in turn basically depends on what you think villain's check-raising range is. If in doubt, however, you should shove, because strong draws benefit from getting all the money in early (as you said, you won't be in a great spot if you call and the turn is a blank.) In other words shove unless you are sure villain is only c/r-ing here with very strong hands.

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If we decide to call and it is checked through on turn, what is the course of action? Check, brick on river check fold or push?

Sean Fraley 09-13-2007 12:48 AM

Re: 10NL Combo-draw facing stiff raise
 
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Folding isn't ok. Whether you shove or call depends on your estimation of your fold equity vs your implied odds, which in turn basically depends on what you think villain's check-raising range is. If in doubt, however, you should shove, because strong draws benefit from getting all the money in early (as you said, you won't be in a great spot if you call and the turn is a blank.) In other words shove unless you are sure villain is only c/r-ing here with very strong hands.

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If we decide to call and it is checked through on turn, what is the course of action? Check, brick on river check fold or push?

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If we call and it is checked through on the turn, I can't really think of much benefit to pushing unless you really think that villain is sophisticated enough to interpret the turn check/river shove as a deliberate attempt to induce a bluff from him on the river (giving any 10NL villain that much credit has to be a leak). If you are going to push at any point in the hand, do it on the flop when you're pot equity is at it's highest.


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