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phydaux 09-12-2007 04:27 PM

10NL wierd draw OOP
 
No real reads or PAHUD stats.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 ($8.20)
MP2 ($1.85)
CO ($17.50)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($6.05)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($6.70)</font>
BB ($14.10)
UTG ($1.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

I love playing small pairs. When MP2 raised I nearly mucked because his stack was so small, but when Button called I decided to go along. Button has a good enough hand to call, but not good enough to re-raise. Hmmm...

Flop: ($1.30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $0.70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.8</font>, Hero calls $1.80, MP2 folds.

Missed my set, but I have an interesting combo draw. Any three will give me a straight, either of the two remaining 6s will give me top set and any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] will give me a small flush. Button's raise is big, but I figure I've got two cards to come, OK implied odds and lots of outs. MP2 might even come along for the ride if I call.

Turn: ($5.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero...

MP2 got wet feet, and Button isn't backing off. Button's bet puts $8.45 in the pot and $3.85 is all I have left. I've got 10 outs but not all of them are clean, and if Button has a flush already then I'm cooked.

What's the play?

threads13 09-12-2007 04:42 PM

Re: 10NL wierd draw OOP
 
I find straightforward opponents will rarely raise monotone boards without a big hand so I think it's a fold.

I think you actually could have easily folded the flop. You only have a weak overpair that is probably no good and a weak redraw.

WantToLearn 09-12-2007 06:34 PM

Re: 10NL wierd draw OOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
I've got 10 outs but not all of them are clean,

[/ QUOTE ]

IMO you donīt really have any clean outs at all.

See, a small flush (6-high) is a strong hand when you have three flush-cards on board and two in the pocket, but it is almost worthless when you have one flush card in the hole. I mean, any lone club higher than 6 beats your future flush.

inverted 09-12-2007 08:01 PM

Re: 10NL wierd draw OOP
 
you're drawing to the 3 of clubs

Cry Me A River 09-12-2007 08:08 PM

Re: 10NL wierd draw OOP
 
With a bet and a raise on that flop I'm just folding. At the very, very least somebody likely has better draws if we're not already basically drawing dead.

toymach776 09-13-2007 01:14 AM

Re: 10NL wierd draw OOP
 
when action on flop comes to you, fold. that is all. no further analysis is needed.

Vecernicek 09-13-2007 06:16 AM

Re: 10NL wierd draw OOP
 
It's not really a "wierd" draw, but it's a weird draw to continue with on the flop, IMO.


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