Finally I have a hand...
 

Villain is 23/13/1.87.
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $203.00
CO: $372.30
Button: $333.20
urbanati: $197.00
BB: $53.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) urbanati is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati raises to $10</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($22, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $15</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($52, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $40</font>, UTG calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($132, 2 players)
urbanati...

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

65 fold to shove ...???
You've got too much investe to do that so ch/c I guess, unless you are positive he would have dumped a club draw to your turn bet, then shove

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

I like 65/70 fold to shove. He'll call with his pocket pairs and shove his flushes.

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

Hmm, is it really a good play to put 67% of heros stack into the pot and then fold?

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

is he good? He's not smooth calling a FD on flop AND turn is he? looks a lot like 88-TT to me...meh, bet/fold seems good I guess...but Id hate folding.

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

If we bet $70 and he shoves we're behind like 90% of the time or more so folding is perfectly fine IMO.

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

c/fold is a reasonable line, too. He'll nearly always check behind with mid pocket pair if he played it like this. And he'll usually fold it to a bet on this river. And you'll lose less money if he has the flush/seven/house. But I don't mind bet/fold either if you think he'll call off more money with a midpocket as this is his most likely hand

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

bet a bit more on the flop, dont like the turn bet at all. Its not a bad spot for a weak blocker, id even go something like $60, he might be confused and call a bit light.

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

i like bet/fold also, we are def way behind almost all the time if he raises cuz his raise would normally not have much fold equity and so he isnt making it on a bluff hardly ever. Anyone like c/f'ing as an option, i like how valar put it, he will check behind his middle PP's here anyhow.

Re: Finally I have a hand...
 

mabye a leak of mine but I would bet fold here like never. I think your putting in to much money where if you check/called he might not bet much more than 70 even with a made flush, and you might induce a bluff from pocket 8s or whatever so I think I'd start by checking and see what he bets. If its near the amount you were going to bet/fold then at least you got to showdown and may have induced a bluff. If it was just a club, and not the ace of clubs then it would seem to be a much less scary card in villians eyes because if hero had been betting qq/kk the whole way villian my try to bluff the ace along with the club draw. So I'd like to see what people think of c/c because if you did just make the flush are you really going to shove when hero looks scared or try and get value? And what is calling if we bet/fold that we beat? I can't think of a hand that calls that we beat if we bet so I think starting off checking is good. good hand to discuss I think.