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stickfighter 09-11-2007 08:31 AM

6 man bubble call. Is this a strong enough hand
 
Presuming that I am pushing ATC here, does the small blind have a big enough hand, risking tripling up the BB? Seems to me this is a fold on his part. What do you think? And would the buyin matter? I left it out of the title on purpose.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB (t1019)
Hero (t5802)
SB (t2179)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t1800</font>, [color=#CC3333]SB raises to t2129</font>, BB calls t369 (All-In), Hero calls t329.

Flop: (t4677) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t4677) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t4677) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4677

Results in white below: [color=#FFFFFF]
BB has Kc 4h (high card, king).
Hero has Kh Kd (one pair, kings).
SB has Qs Js (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins t4677. </font>

RexWoo 09-11-2007 08:41 AM

Re: 6 man bubble call. Is this a strong enough hand
 
1. super stupid play by the SB

2. super super super bad call by the BB as he has a much greater chance to be ITM by folding

AMT 09-11-2007 08:54 AM

Re: 6 man bubble call. Is this a strong enough hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. super stupid play by the SB

2. super super super bad call by the BB as he has a much greater chance to be ITM by folding

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MikeMcQ1 09-11-2007 09:11 AM

Re: 6 man bubble call. Is this a strong enough hand
 
This is actually fairly interesting for SB and BB. I think the buy-in does matter here and reads would be relevant. If SB knows BB is going to call no matter what, then it's not bad, presuming he thinks you're shoving ATC. After SB shoves, BB needs to fold here though.

Also, this is not an unexploitable ATC shove for Button.

LuckyJohn 09-11-2007 09:58 AM

Re: 6 man bubble call. Is this a strong enough hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. super stupid play by the SB

2. super super super bad call by the BB as he has a much greater chance to be ITM by folding

[/ QUOTE ]

I have such players on my limit (3$)

bogey1 09-11-2007 10:50 AM

Re: 6 man bubble call. Is this a strong enough hand
 
If the BB was all in, I'm fine with the SB's play. Button could be raising light even though he's seeing showdown just due the blind level and the likely overlay from the SB and antes.

If, as the SB, you win, you're in great shape for 1st place.

However, given the BB isn't all in, horrible, horrible shove by the SB. Even worse call by the BB.


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